Std Injectors Over 240 Rwkw

[Guest]

My injectors couldnt supply enough fuel over 198rwkw, so it was tuned back to 193rwkw for a safety margin, I have unichip ECU, centre muffler chop with standard exhaust and a K&N filter.  Car dynoed at 178rwkw stock and is an auto.

Dazza.

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that dont sound right?

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that's what the tuner said, they usually get up over 200rwkw easy enough but mine just wouldnt do it safely, and I mean safely by it would be running to lean, maybe the injectors were are a little blocked or something, but I have always been planning on putting in new injectors eventually anyway.

If you have any other suggestions, I am willing to listen.

Dazza.

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we will take this of this thread to keep it clean so pm coming!

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The best I've had with the standard injectors is 233rwkw's. This also produced boost cut when cold due to the injectors being at there limits. This was with a 2nd CAI and centre muffler removed with the Xede. This was with my old car "BOOF". With this combination I ran a best of 13.3@105mph.

Geea.

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Good information there Geea, your XR6T produced an excellent ET and MPH for a car with a genuine 233 RWkW's, I wonder what MPH these other cars would run to back up the claimed power figures, the MPH is the most accurate test to verify the power gained.

I believe that this thread is somewhat useless unless all of the cars are tested on one type/brand of dyno, same day/environmental conditions, and with the same fuel octane, there are huge variations in power measured across the different brands of dynos.

Peter

Edited 15/02/05 11:16 PM by aps

[Guest FatBAt]

I believe that this thread is somewhat useless unless all of the cars are tested on one type/brand of dyno, same day/environmental conditions, and with the same fuel octane, there are huge variations in power measured across the different brands of dynos.

Peter

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I believe he just asked a generic question and put it to a poll. He also said he didn't want to start a fight. ...geeesus.

[RAPHOON]

My 265RWKW was produced using a Dynologic Dyno and the 10PSI map. The numbers will be verified @ F.I.S.T. tomorrow, so I'll be able to post the DD figures then.

[Romulus]

260rwkw here running stock exhaust, stock air intake, 600k's on odo and a CAPA Flash tuning box

[Romulus]

The best I've had with the standard injectors is 233rwkw's. This also produced boost cut when cold due to the injectors being at there limits. This was with a 2nd CAI and centre muffler removed with the Xede. This was with my old car "BOOF". With this combination I ran a best of 13.3@105mph.

Geea.

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What is boost cut? It's something I haven't experienced with the 10 psi program.

[Guest xrtwpn]

The best I've had with the standard injectors is 233rwkw's. This also produced boost cut when cold due to the injectors being at there limits. This was with a 2nd CAI and centre muffler removed with the Xede. This was with my old car "BOOF". With this combination I ran a best of 13.3@105mph.

Geea.

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What is boost cut? It's something I haven't experienced with the 10 psi program.

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You wont get boost cut with edit

[Geeseman]

I believe that this thread is somewhat useless unless all of the cars are tested on one type/brand of dyno, same day/environmental conditions, and with the same fuel octane, there are huge variations in power measured across the different brands of dynos.

Peter

I believe he just asked a generic question and put it to a poll. He also said he didn't want to start a fight. ...geeesus.

He has a valid point. People post dyno readings with no verification as to the accuracy of the dyno. We've seen people posting 210rwkw+ for a standard T, which is highly unlikely.

[geea]

I believe that this thread is somewhat useless unless all of the cars are tested on one type/brand of dyno, same day/environmental conditions, and with the same fuel octane, there are huge variations in power measured across the different brands of dynos.

Peter

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I believe that dyno numbers should only be used as a tuning tool to assist in a cars development. The dyno numbers combined with 1/4mile MPH will give a much more accurate indication of a cars true power.

What Peter says about different conditions is very true too. I remember one of the first dyno days at Dynomotive in Bayswater. There were a dozen or so auto T's 10 of them ran 1855-190rwkw's and mine and one other ran 201rwkw's. The only difference between the cars was that the 2 that ran 201rwkw's both used 98ron fuel whilst the rest used standard unleaded.

With my next comment I'm not trying to upset anyone. I find the 260rwkw's a bit hard to believe for edit only. An auto T with 260rwkw's should be able to run 12.8/12.9 @112mph. I hope they do and it would be great if a few of the edited cars got some times so we could get a better indication of the true value of the generic maps.

I know that a GT with the edit had a dyno sheet with 279ishRWKW's. This car managed a best of 13.8 on the night. It had all the protections removed and 500rpm extra. It ran quicker before it had the edit.

I'm not having a go at anyone or thing. I'm just making facts that I know available for everyone to have a look at and make their own judgements. HPF have the edit and at somestage will more than likely use my car to see what it can do. I'll make sure to keep everyone informed of my progress.

Geea.

[JB]

I believe that this thread is somewhat useless unless all of the cars are tested on one type/brand of dyno, same day/environmental conditions, and with the same fuel octane, there are huge variations in power measured across the different brands of dynos.

Peter

I believe that dyno numbers should only be used as a tuning tool to assist in a cars development. The dyno numbers combined with 1/4mile MPH will give a much more accurate indication of a cars true power.

What Peter says about different conditions is very true too. I remember one of the first dyno days at Dynomotive in Bayswater. There were a dozen or so auto T's 10 of them ran 1855-190rwkw's and mine and one other ran 201rwkw's. The only difference between the cars was that the 2 that ran 201rwkw's both used 98ron fuel whilst the rest used standard unleaded.

With my next comment I'm not trying to upset anyone. I find the 260rwkw's a bit hard to believe for edit only. An auto T with 260rwkw's should be able to run 12.8/12.9 @112mph. I hope they do and it would be great if a few of the edited cars got some times so we could get a better indication of the true value of the generic maps.

I know that a GT with the edit had a dyno sheet with 279ishRWKW's. This car managed a best of 13.8 on the night. It had all the protections removed and 500rpm extra. It ran quicker before it had the edit.

I'm not having a go at anyone or thing. I'm just making facts that I know available for everyone to have a look at and make their own judgements. HPF have the edit and at somestage will more than likely use my car to see what it can do. I'll make sure to keep everyone informed of my progress.

Geea.

All valid and factual points Geea.

My other question is from experience and knowledge, I am trying to understand how auto T's with the edit can run 260rwkw without destroying the auto box. From numerous ones we have seen before the edit, the limitations of the auto box are approx 240-250rwkw then they either go bang or their life span is dramatically reduced to a matter of weeks/months.

These edit cars that are running 260rwkw, where are your autos currently at?

Then there are injectors at around 260rwkw plus, how are these guys running 260rwkw on standard systems, but that's a topic that is currently in the boxing ring for EMS, but where does the edit stand on it?