aps Member 1,505 Member For: 21y 8m 26d Posted 23/02/05 10:30 AM Share Posted 23/02/05 10:30 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.macka<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macka'sxr6t Member 1,480 Member For: 20y 6m 6d Location: Mildura Posted 23/02/05 10:38 AM Share Posted 23/02/05 10:38 AM You and your car will only get better Forget about the physics just fix that clutch and put some got tyres on itall the best matemacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badxr6 HEINRICH PERFORMANCE AND TUNING Donating Members 439 Member For: 20y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: adelaide Posted 23/02/05 10:38 AM Author Share Posted 23/02/05 10:38 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.mackaWell if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce PeterI will not get into an argument about what I have or havnt got but two dynos I used here which are prety new dyno dynamics both made the same power with in two kws and another one which does not have shoot out mode it made 368rwkws so I am only posting what I have been told my car has but trust me it shore as hell seems like it has the power it shows but we will have to wait untill the holden/ford show comes to town to back it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aps Member 1,505 Member For: 21y 8m 26d Posted 23/02/05 10:45 AM Share Posted 23/02/05 10:45 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.macka<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce Peter<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I will not get into an argument about what I have or havnt got but two dynos I used here which are prety new dyno dynamics both made the same power with in two kws and another one which does not have shoot out mode it made 368rwkws so I am only posting what I have been told my car has but trust me it shore as hell seems like it has the power it shows but we will have to wait untill the holden/ford show comes to town to back it up<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Bruce that's approximately 493 HP at the tyres (not 450 FWkW's) and it's my view that if you really want to know flywheel power pull the engine and measure it on an engine dyno, other wise it's all speculation, in any event the engine is obviously very powerful.Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badxr6 HEINRICH PERFORMANCE AND TUNING Donating Members 439 Member For: 20y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: adelaide Posted 23/02/05 10:47 AM Author Share Posted 23/02/05 10:47 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.mackaWell if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce PeterI will not get into an argument about what I have or havnt got but two dynos I used here which are prety new dyno dynamics both made the same power with in two kws and another one which does not have shoot out mode it made 368rwkws so I am only posting what I have been told my car has but trust me it shore as hell seems like it has the power it shows but we will have to wait untill the holden/ford show comes to town to back it upBruce that's approximately 493 HP at the tyres (not 450 FWkW's) and it's my view that if you really want to know flywheel power pull the engine and measure it on an engine dyno, other wise it's all speculation, in any event the engine is obviously very powerful.Peterso what you are telling me 390rwks = 493hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 1m 23d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 23/02/05 10:48 AM Share Posted 23/02/05 10:48 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.macka<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce Peter<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Of course it can't = obvious to anyone that it couldn't, 'cos it has a Nizpro kit on it right Peter!!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badxr6 HEINRICH PERFORMANCE AND TUNING Donating Members 439 Member For: 20y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: adelaide Posted 23/02/05 10:51 AM Author Share Posted 23/02/05 10:51 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.mackaWell if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce PeterOf course it can't = obvious to anyone that it couldn't, 'cos it has a Nizpro kit on it right Peter!!!?no it must be right as it has a aps exhaust on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aps Member 1,505 Member For: 21y 8m 26d Posted 23/02/05 10:55 AM Share Posted 23/02/05 10:55 AM DW, you must understand that Macka's confusion was based upon the assumption that the resultant power figure was at the wheels. I don't for one second believe that Macka posted false information simply to provoke a response from APS - which is in all fairness, a post that is of benefit to all members who wish to learn more about the science of drag calculators.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Your right George, Peter I did not post this to start a fight I was just after some clarification.Still as confused as before.If Craig and Dean are producing 390 Flkw to produce a top speed of 120 mph which I might add are proven, no argument from me on that score.Badxr has 450 Flkw yet still pulled the same mph.With a slipping clutch and no doubt plenty of wheel spin could this effect the mph by that much. If what I'm lead to believe the power of the engine still somehow over comes these problems should'nt Bruces mph still be higher than Craig & Deans.I only use these 3 cars as references as everyone is familiar with their cars and performances.It's nothing personal, just trying to understand the statements made.macka<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well if it's doing 120 MPH over the 1/4 mile (I don't mean that 120 MPH is slow) I can just about 100% guarantee you the car does not have 450 kW's at the flywheel, no direspect intended to Bruce Peter<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I will not get into an argument about what I have or havnt got but two dynos I used here which are prety new dyno dynamics both made the same power with in two kws and another one which does not have shoot out mode it made 368rwkws so I am only posting what I have been told my car has but trust me it shore as hell seems like it has the power it shows but we will have to wait untill the holden/ford show comes to town to back it up<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Bruce that's approximately 493 HP at the tyres (not 450 FWkW's) and it's my view that if you really want to know flywheel power pull the engine and measure it on an engine dyno, other wise it's all speculation, in any event the engine is obviously very powerful.Peter<{POST_SNAPBACK}>so what you are telling me 390rwks = 493hp<{POST_SNAPBACK}>No I'm saying that 368 RWkW's equals 493 Horsepower at the treads.Where did the 390 RWkW's figure come from?Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badxr6 HEINRICH PERFORMANCE AND TUNING Donating Members 439 Member For: 20y 9m 25d Gender: Male Location: adelaide Posted 23/02/05 11:03 AM Author Share Posted 23/02/05 11:03 AM here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aps Member 1,505 Member For: 21y 8m 26d Posted 23/02/05 11:06 AM Share Posted 23/02/05 11:06 AM here<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Fair enough Bruce though why did you state 368 RWkW's about 3 posts back? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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