Nankang Ns2 Tyres

[Barry Blue]

I have had no problem with NS2s, but then again, I love driving in the wet

On a serious note: Anyone wanting a good cheeeap tyre should not go past what "Maxxis" have to offer, they actually came first in the wet, in the Wheels Tyre Test.

Otherwise get yourself a loan, and then listen to Cro

Clarke

[PhantomFox6]

Can't comment on the Nankangs.

But I can recommend Nexen N3000s as a cheap tyre.

Silica compound across the range. The NS2s have silica in 18" and up.

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Nexen N3000s on my T when I picked it up. I can't compare it at this stage with any other tyre ( cos I've only done 5000-7000km) but when im due for some newies I will gladly take the nexens if my cash factor is low.

They have proven to be very reliable in the wet and dry. Traction is not an issue, I'm lucky to spin the wheels on gravel even when I give the old girl a boot full.

Cornering is awsome, no issues there.

Nexens get the big and a ......so far.

[bushuteF6]

Your kidding me...nice one...for a second I thought you were serious 

Yokohama's best and Dunlops second...you crack me up 

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I probably should have qualified my statement a little better I admit. Of the tyres I've used to date I've found the AVS to be the best. I travel a LOT of Ks every year and go through more tyres than most - without doing burnouts/wheelspins and the like. As a result I've also had the opp to try many different brands. The top AVS, the Sport, (there are 3 types of AVS), although a bit harsh on the front shoulders in the old Boss 290, are just great. I don't pussy foot around either and every days sees many Ks of tight twisty driving from -5 winter mornings to 38+ summer arvos. Basically, this was my opinion based solely on my experience. Don't get me wrong the Dunlops are magic and I use their semi-slicks on my track car - they are just awesome.

I am somewhat dissapointed that you made a comment like that without substatiating it with a little more info. Although I'm very new to this forum I didn't think it was about slagging off at other posts if they differed from another member's opinion. I thought it was about sharing information with others regardless of ones own personal views.

It appears you are a regular contributor to the forum, are well regarded by other members and have a lot of experience to share, so how about sharing that experience and other information in a friendly and professional manner?

[Cro]

I have shared my experience on many occasions, you can do a search on Michelin, Pirelli, tyres and see many of my posts stating what these tyres can do.

Newer people on this forum however seem to love spending big bucks on their cars performance and cheaping out when it comes to tyres for many reasons...

Doing too many km's, wanting bigger wheels, can't afford good tyres, etc.. I've seen all the excuses.

So I've changed my approach, and started bagging out the crapper tyres.

It seems I won't get through to anyone either way, because people put $$$ over safety or performance 99% of the time.

[bushuteF6]

Yep I've seen many of your previous posts and a LOT of very good info you've provided too. I guess that's why I was a little suprised at your rather short comment, that's all.

Although I'm new to the Forum I'm certainly not one of those who just spend big bucks on their cars without a specific reason for a "fit for purpose" plan. So I'm sure that comment was not directed at me To me one of the most important things is good rubber on your paws and I certainly don't skimp.

I was probably somewhat inaccurate in my previous statement as the new AVS is now called the Advan Sport V103. Which I've found to be a ripper tyre and still my pick. The previous version, the V102 was good too (50,000 Ks on 2 sets) but I admit they were not quite as good as the factory dunlops. Worth noting that the V103 is OEM on HSV, 911 Carrera 4 and Elfin.

Too many Ks? I can't do much about that other than ensure I feel I've got the best rubber on the road. I live 80kms from the city and have no option. Besides, 160kms a day in a brilliant Ford torque monster is just the ducks guts btw - the Advans don't cost me any different than the Dunlops.

I agree with your comment re big wheels and crap rubber. Often bigger wheels, esp the sh*tto ones from most retailers, only add to the unsprung weight, causing poorer handling and decreased braking efficiency. I cringe when I see what some people have done to their rolling rubber and the globs of poor casting with 5Kg of lead balancing weights they call wheels!!

I feel your pain. I too have often preached about good rubber, handling and braking to many, unfortunately it is lost on those who only seek "the look".

I try and practice what I preach. Therefore I have to actually import tyres form the US to ensure I get the "right" compound tyre for a given purpose I.e. track work. Although I can get "close" here in Oz they are not quite the right compound and I'm not willing to comprimise. Costs me more but it satisifies the objective.

I think we may have got off on the wrong foot somehow with the original posts. Again, although I'm new to this forum I feel I also have a lot to offer given my background and experience. I look forward to learning as much as I can from this forum as there is sooo much good stuff and would like to share my knowledge too.

I hope to always provide an unbiased and informative approach to advice and only expect to receive the same.

Cheers

[XR06T]

what about tyres like the federal that are cheap but are still given an AA traction rating and 240 treadwear rating?

do the letters actually mean much in the grand scheme because the difference in tyres given a A rating is huge?

[Evil F6]

I have shared my experience on many occasions, you can do a search on Michelin, Pirelli, tyres and see many of my posts stating what these tyres can do.

Newer people on this forum however seem to love spending big bucks on their cars performance and cheaping out when it comes to tyres for many reasons...

Doing too many km's, wanting bigger wheels, can't afford good tyres, etc.. I've seen all the excuses.

So I've changed my approach, and started bagging out the crapper tyres.

It seems I won't get through to anyone either way, because people put $$$ over safety or performance 99% of the time.

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Well start a discount Michelin shop and maybe we can all be driving around on the WORLDS best tyre. Otherwise I have to stick to my piss poor no name brands like Yokohama, Goodyear and Dunlop.

Edited 04/12/06 02:11 AM by Evil F6

[Cro]

I think we may have got off on the wrong foot somehow with the original posts. Again, although I'm new to this forum I feel I also have a lot to offer given my background and experience. I look forward to learning as much as I can from this forum as there is sooo much good stuff and would like to share my knowledge too.

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[Cro]

what about tyres like the federal that are cheap but are still given an AA traction rating and 240 treadwear rating?

do the letters actually mean much in the grand scheme because the difference in tyres given a A rating is huge?

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I think bushutef6 nailed it when he said...

Tyres - a classic example of you get what you pay for! Tread pattern and compound is the most important thing to go for with your expected driving conditions.

Most "name" brands develop new tread patterns and compounds each year and then sell the "old" moulds to cheapo tyre mobs like Nangbangers (or whatever). Trouble is the other "non name" brands use sh*tty compounds. Bottom line - the "name"brands do the R&D and set the standard, the others just follow with cheap immos.

The Traction and Treadwear ratings are only a guide, some people take them seriously some dont and not all manufacturers display them.

I take them into consideration, as well as the compound, tread pattern and performance of the tyre.

As for the federals being a good tyre or not..I wouldn't have a clue.

Till companies like Porsche GT, Lamborghini, Bugatti, Ferrari, BMW M, McLaren, AMG, Konisegg, etc.. have them as standard fitment on their cars I won't be buying them for my car.

That is the reason why I've never been able to afford to modify my car, I pay so damn much for damn good tyres.

May not make my car much faster in a straight line, but it holds its on through corners, on a track and in an emergency situation. The latter being the most important consideration.

[bushuteF6]

That is the reason why I've never been able to afford to modify my car, I pay so damn much for damn good tyres.

May not make my car much faster in a straight line, but it holds its on through corners, on a track and in an emergency situation. The latter being the most important consideration.

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Yep spot on! Pity more people don't follow the same philosophy. Get the handling "sorted" first then do the "go faster" bits later.