darthy Member 13 Member For: 20y 3m 8d Posted 01/02/05 05:25 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 05:25 AM Buying a Toyota is a mortal sin. Camry drivers are the Volvo drivers of the new millemium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueXR6Turbo The Best Member Donating Members 1,970 Member For: 21y 11m 16d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 01/02/05 07:02 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 07:02 AM Isn't the Falcon selling well????nope it isnt. reading an article the other day (will try to find) in regards to sales for the year. toyota had over 200k sold, Late model camira sales decrease, falcon sales decreased but not as much as Late model camira but the gap between was enormous with Expensive Daewoo still selling plenty more. (maybe that indicates how many stupid people are out there)Was that Falcon sales decreased, or Ford sales decreased? Big difference. I too thought that Falcon sales were going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 10m Location: Toowoomba Posted 01/02/05 09:11 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 09:11 AM Wouldnt Toyotas annual sales figures include truck sales aswell, something ford and Expensive Daewoo dont really make.Dazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicksy still kicking around Member 1,789 Member For: 21y 9m 3d Gender: Male Location: Mackay Posted 01/02/05 09:26 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 09:26 AM true it includes all their 4WDS, landcruisers, hilux's etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 21y 10m 24d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 01/02/05 09:48 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 09:48 AM Wouldnt Toyotas annual sales figures include truck sales aswell, something ford and Expensive Daewoo dont really make.Dazza.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not only that, but Echo, Corolla, and usually either Prado or Landcruiser make it into the Top 10 sales every month.Ford's answer to small cars (Fiesta and Focus) can't touch the Echo and Corolla sales figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 10m Location: Toowoomba Posted 01/02/05 10:17 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 10:17 AM yeah the echo seems to be the car of choice for small run around delivery/company cars, The company I work has purechased over 200 echos over the last 12 months they are tough little buggers and toyota gave us the best deal in leasing.Dazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 8m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 01/02/05 10:31 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 10:31 AM yeah the echo seems to be the car of choice for small run around delivery/company cars, The company I work has purechased over 200 echos over the last 12 months they are tough little buggers and toyota gave us the best deal in leasing.Dazza.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>And apparently they look awesome with an illuminated sign stuck on the roof!How off-putting are they to drive though, with the centre mounted instruments. Not to mention someone of my stature (I.e. big bas*ard) needs a friggin can opener to get in and out of them.Someone also mentioned the prado. I’m yet to come across a decent prado driver, they seem to be the vehicle of choice for the middle age generation that are yet to find that perfect volvo. Trent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 10m Location: Toowoomba Posted 01/02/05 11:09 AM Share Posted 01/02/05 11:09 AM yeah the echo seems to be the car of choice for small run around delivery/company cars, The company I work has purechased over 200 echos over the last 12 months they are tough little buggers and toyota gave us the best deal in leasing.Dazza.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>And apparently they look awesome with an illuminated sign stuck on the roof!How off-putting are they to drive though, with the centre mounted instruments. Not to mention someone of my stature (I.e. big bas*ard) needs a friggin can opener to get in and out of them.Someone also mentioned the prado. I’m yet to come across a decent prado driver, they seem to be the vehicle of choice for the middle age generation that are yet to find that perfect volvo. Trent.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>yeah, the centre mounted instruments I recon are just a novelty to snare female buyers, "I want that one cause it looks cool." But ours has put up with 17-20 year olds driving it for over 12 months, since they are so gutless you have to rev the ring out of them to get it to 60 and it hasnt been back for a waranty claim yet, except for a blown headlight, but my falcon has blown 4 in the same time. Clutch is getting a little funny now, but it does over 60,000 k's a year all city driving.Dazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Member 378 Member For: 20y 10m 4d Posted 01/02/05 10:38 PM Share Posted 01/02/05 10:38 PM Below are yearly summary VFACTS figures: Note that Ford Falcon sales have fallen by 7836 units, from 73220 in 2003 to 65384 in 2004. There were 13583 Ford Territory sales and it appears statistically and anecdotally significant that the Territory may be cannibalising Falcon sales.Dec 04 / YTD 04 - Dec 03 / YTD 03Ford Ford Cougar 2 83 Ford Courier 4X2 256 2981 167 2521 Ford Courier 4X4 320 4096 290 3658 Ford Econovan Van 83 1181 76 1082 Ford Escape 231 3252 338 3238 Ford Explorer 59 891 95 1467 Ford F250 4X2 10 179 6 264 Ford F250 4X4 79 1567 89 1545 Ford F350 4X2 4 68 5 112 Ford F350 4X4 1 37 3 35 Ford Fairlane 97 2016 335 2389 Ford Falcon 5608 65384 6331 73220 Ford Falcon Ute 1694 20123 1697 20212 Ford Fiesta 481 3930 Ford Focus 1032 12565 1000 12502 Ford Laser 1 369 Ford LTD 16 174 10 146 Ford Territory 2184 13583 Ford Transit 193 2233 180 2196 Ford Transit Bus 33 396 5 263 Ford Transit C/C 55 513 32 510 TOTAL Ford 12436 135172 10662 126581 Expensive Daewoo Expensive Daewoo Adventra 147 2500 61 78 Expensive Daewoo Astra 1657 24699 2161 26139 Expensive Daewoo Astra Convertible 174 1503 98 2470 Expensive Daewoo Barina 644 7349 186 4764 Expensive Daewoo Caprice 93 1011 93 1061 Expensive Daewoo Combo 36 1204 82 1188 Expensive Daewoo Late model camira 6038 79170 6655 86553 Expensive Daewoo Cruze 249 2855 338 3371 Expensive Daewoo Frontera 137 Expensive Daewoo Jackaroo 186 128 1641 Expensive Daewoo Monaro 224 2656 158 2889 Expensive Daewoo Rodeo 4X2 1113 13128 690 10088 Expensive Daewoo Rodeo 4X4 975 10927 756 9138 Expensive Daewoo Statesman 277 3640 248 4363 Expensive Daewoo Utility 4X2 1917 20813 1855 17211 Expensive Daewoo Utility 4X4 112 1559 Expensive Daewoo Vectra (4 cyl) 162 1514 310 1423 Expensive Daewoo Vectra CDX 74 1982 251 1390 Expensive Daewoo Vectra V6 14 Expensive Daewoo Zafira 73 1331 102 1494 TOTAL Expensive Daewoo 13965 178027 14172 175412 Toyota Toyota Avalon 377 5584 658 6064 Toyota Avensis 63 939 118 1253 Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 3027 26286 2353 25261 Toyota Camry V6 1463 14070 1062 13279 Toyota Celica 11 308 23 445 Toyota Coaster 23 399 20 319 Toyota Corolla 2793 39053 3037 36128 Toyota Dyna (2.5t) 11 1 12 Toyota Dyna (3.5t) 1 108 15 204 Toyota Dyna (7.5t) 1 5 4 18 Toyota Dyna 150 23 6 20 Toyota Echo 1649 17879 1336 16986 Toyota Hiace Bus 67 1148 128 1524 Toyota Hiace Van 358 5270 613 6407 Toyota Hilux 4X2 1000 13911 976 12292 Toyota Hilux 4X4 905 14166 1089 13591 Toyota Kluger 596 7655 686 1380 Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC 565 6773 547 5881 Toyota Landcruiser Wagon 1197 13917 1151 14425 Toyota MR2 7 84 12 161 Toyota Prado 1447 16758 1415 14639 Toyota Prius 133 1094 26 292 Toyota RAV4 1086 13220 1053 12026 Toyota Tarago 205 2930 182 2736 Toyota Townace 146 66 1027 TOTAL Toyota 16974 201737 16577 186370 Mitsubishi Mitsubishi Canter 148 1727 171 1391 Mitsubishi Canter (7.5t) 2 80 4 45 Mitsubishi Challenger 70 1209 122 1590 Mitsubishi Colt 188 717 Mitsubishi Express 207 2434 179 2029 Mitsubishi F-Series (15t) 24 191 16 165 Mitsubishi Fighter (15t) 43 376 33 308 Mitsubishi Fighter (7.5t) 46 505 61 430 Mitsubishi Grandis 46 397 Mitsubishi Lancer 1275 13685 1490 17931 Mitsubishi Magna V6 1195 14250 1551 21541 Mitsubishi Mirage 6 2086 808 6661 Mitsubishi Nimbus 29 16 233 Mitsubishi Outlander 404 3328 223 3011 Mitsubishi Pajero 487 6984 667 7580 Mitsubishi Pajero iO 2 2 175 Mitsubishi Rosa Bus 61 418 34 260 Mitsubishi Starwagon 4x2 23 6 411 Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 242 3195 282 3433 Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 405 3613 255 3470 Mitsubishi Verada 215 1718 109 2125 TOTAL Mitsubishi 5064 56967 6029 72789 Safe and happy driving...Dr Z. :banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jteale Guests Posted 01/02/05 10:54 PM Share Posted 01/02/05 10:54 PM Below are yearly summary VFACTS figures: Note that Ford Falcon sales have fallen by 7836 units, from 73220 in 2003 to 65384 in 2004. There were 13583 Ford Territory sales and it appears statistically and anecdotally significant that the Territory may be cannibalising Falcon sales.Bet they sold more than 7000 odd Falcon Wagons in 2003 ... I would buy a Territory over the wagon anyday ... I suspect the Falcon wagon days are numbered ... especially after Ford wisely made a RWD Territory :banghead: Cheers, Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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