Xr6t Ute V's Ls2 Ute

[Blonk]

  ExAreSix said:

  Blonk said:

Holdens suc..... No go away Expensive Daewoo lovers and lick your crutches....

I have seen a very smooth T run a very smooth 12....

I have seen  a forced induction ls1 battling to run low 13's.....

They may sound good but so does a nissan motor at 11,000rpm....

Expensive Daewoo site is elsewhere.. Please refrain from dribbling here

You can take that talk elsewhere too...

Don't think that because this is a Ford forum you're going to be backed up when you talk rubbish like that. Show some maturity, and respect.

There are some super quick LS1s around, don't think there isn't.

I've seen a Ph3 XR6T, 300+rwkw, struggle to get better than a low 13... While a 260rwkw Clubby ran high 12s consistently.

Suddenly its turned from a stock T V's a Ls2 comparison to a V8 comparison.....

ExareSic - "You can take that talk elsewhere"

- Yeh right ... If you want to compare apples and oranges mate go for it and someone points out that apples are apples and oranges arent and you get pizzed, then boy something messed up in ya life there pal...

Please read the front page of this forum... FordXR6Turbo..... Hello....

If you think a stock XRT will go with a Big bored (finally after 38 years of development) 300KW motor.. Then you have your head in the clouds, I was a Expensive Daewoo man all my life and was shopping for a VY SS when I bought the T.. You see I drove it and it out handled, out performed the SS on all counts, was lighter and cheaper..... ---------

ExareSic- "Don't think that because this is a Ford forum you're going to be backed up when you talk rubbish like that. Show some maturity, and respect." ----

Yeh like the dude that was street racing that started this thread... And sorry If you believe I respect your opinion you are deeply mistaken dude......

I understand Caterpillar is about to release a 3200hp deisel.... Lets run it in our stock T then come on here and whinge about getting beaten...

"yeh,,, Ford has had 50 years to build a 3200hp deisel whats wrong with them..."

Next there will be threads by mitsubishi owners claiming to have T's saying they have been outrun by an EVO and we will start bagging ford cause our cars cant beat an EVO.....

Like I said.... Go elsewhere to compare Onions with Lemons.,

[YOOT]

  Lawsy said:

Well, I've been a Ford fan all my life... Its in my blood.

But I'm sick and bloody tired of these morons on top of the Ford food chain denying the end user ANY sort of out and out performance v8. We simply don't have one. Tell me one engine, that revs, has torque off idle, has a wicked mid and top end, is compliable with all emission laws, is relative and fits in the falcon without modification, and has the potential to give near 280rwkW in near stock form. Name one. Expensive Daewoo have nearly 3. That is infinitely more. 3 doesn't devide by zero.

Ford need to put some serious cash into an engine developement plant in Aus. We can build bad arse engines here. We have some of the best engineers in the world (who get hired and flown overseas funny enough).

We Aussies under-rate ourselves. We have the best sports people, we have something like 5 world renound scientists (as in, if you were ranking them, top 10 sort of thing) we have the most skilled and well trained army, we have the best harbour and we have some of the worlds very damn best engineers, who are just begging to be given a clean slate and told "here, build me a v8!"......

The money needs to be spent, Ford US need to be given the middle finger and told what to do for once. Someone in ford aus needs to strap there balls down and kick up a serious stink about our engine situation, because I for one am totaly sick of it. Ford aus really do try you know, but big brother just ties our hands. Ford aus need to be given the resource to cut loose.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I think you'll find they do spend lots of money on engines, only Australia doesn't have the population to support the recouperation of funds from the costs of D & R from two engines. We have the 4.0 Six, that is our Australian angine, and, its world class, BMW class even.

We simply can't afford a unique V8 for 15,000 XR/FPV sales per model (5 years). that's what the 350million strong US market is for, its Ford US that needs to make a GenX competitor. And spuercharging truck engines is not it.

You'll find that now FoMoCo are making money again, they will invest in these sort of things, just lately they have been in the red. GM have been well into black for a long time, hence the Gen3/4 and variants.

[ExAreSix]

  Blonk said:

  ExAreSix said:

  Blonk said:

Holdens suc..... No go away Expensive Daewoo lovers and lick your crutches....

I have seen a very smooth T run a very smooth 12....

I have seen  a forced induction ls1 battling to run low 13's.....

They may sound good but so does a nissan motor at 11,000rpm....

Expensive Daewoo site is elsewhere.. Please refrain from dribbling here

You can take that talk elsewhere too...

Don't think that because this is a Ford forum you're going to be backed up when you talk rubbish like that. Show some maturity, and respect.

There are some super quick LS1s around, don't think there isn't.

I've seen a Ph3 XR6T, 300+rwkw, struggle to get better than a low 13... While a 260rwkw Clubby ran high 12s consistently.

Suddenly its turned from a stock T V's a Ls2 comparison to a V8 comparison.....

ExareSic - "You can take that talk elsewhere"

- Yeh right ... If you want to compare apples and oranges mate go for it and someone points out that apples are apples and oranges arent and you get pizzed, then boy something messed up in ya life there pal...

Please read the front page of this forum... FordXR6Turbo..... Hello....

If you think a stock XRT will go with a Big bored (finally after 38 years of development) 300KW motor.. Then you have your head in the clouds, I was a Expensive Daewoo man all my life and was shopping for a VY SS when I bought the T.. You see I drove it and it out handled, out performed the SS on all counts, was lighter and cheaper..... ---------

ExareSic- "Don't think that because this is a Ford forum you're going to be backed up when you talk rubbish like that. Show some maturity, and respect." ----

Yeh like the dude that was street racing that started this thread... And sorry If you believe I respect your opinion you are deeply mistaken dude......

I understand Caterpillar is about to release a 3200hp deisel.... Lets run it in our stock T then come on here and whinge about getting beaten...

"yeh,,, Ford has had 50 years to build a 3200hp deisel whats wrong with them..."

Next there will be threads by mitsubishi owners claiming to have T's saying they have been outrun by an EVO and we will start bagging ford cause our cars cant beat an EVO.....

Like I said.... Go elsewhere to compare Onions with Lemons.,

After reading that (I don't know why I bothered) I have to question if you're even old enough to drive?

I've seen 10 yr old kids with ADHD write better than that.

I'm not going to go back and read it again to try and make sense of any of it.

(Does anyone know WTF he's trying to say??)

Honestly, it's members like yourself, writing drivel as witnessed in this thread, that brought this forum into disrepute not so long ago.

EDIT: Apologies to anyone else who have to deal with ADHD, and who may be offended by my comment.

[Blonk]

Disrepute by who - You???????

I dont know anyone that looks unfavourably on this site....... Maybe just you hey.........

[jnr]

  TurboDewd said:

Back to the original post, there is no mention of HSV Maloo...is this the car that the guy actually encountered? It will be the only Expensive Daewoo ute running the 6.0L fuel in-efficient Yankee engine.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The Ute was an R8 Ls2. Manual. Brand spanka.

Its funny how some people are so narrow minded ....... discussions about competitors doesn't always have to end up in arguments & slanging s@#t at people's opinions. Or is that what makes us human. Or more to the point male.

[Lawsy]

  rednut99 said:

  Lawsy said:

Well, I've been a Ford fan all my life... Its in my blood.

But I'm sick and bloody tired of these morons on top of the Ford food chain denying the end user ANY sort of out and out performance v8. We simply don't have one. Tell me one engine, that revs, has torque off idle, has a wicked mid and top end, is compliable with all emission laws, is relative and fits in the falcon without modification, and has the potential to give near 280rwkW in near stock form. Name one. Expensive Daewoo have nearly 3. That is infinitely more. 3 doesn't devide by zero.

Ford need to put some serious cash into an engine developement plant in Aus. We can build bad arse engines here. We have some of the best engineers in the world (who get hired and flown overseas funny enough).

We Aussies under-rate ourselves. We have the best sports people, we have something like 5 world renound scientists (as in, if you were ranking them, top 10 sort of thing) we have the most skilled and well trained army, we have the best harbour and we have some of the worlds very damn best engineers, who are just begging to be given a clean slate and told "here, build me a v8!"......

The money needs to be spent, Ford US need to be given the middle finger and told what to do for once. Someone in ford aus needs to strap there balls down and kick up a serious stink about our engine situation, because I for one am totaly sick of it. Ford aus really do try you know, but big brother just ties our hands. Ford aus need to be given the resource to cut loose.

I think you'll find they do spend lots of money on engines, only Australia doesn't have the population to support the recouperation of funds from the costs of D & R from two engines. We have the 4.0 Six, that is our Australian angine, and, its world class, BMW class even.

We simply can't afford a unique V8 for 15,000 XR/FPV sales per model (5 years). that's what the 350million strong US market is for, its Ford US that needs to make a GenX competitor. And spuercharging truck engines is not it.

You'll find that now FoMoCo are making money again, they will invest in these sort of things, just lately they have been in the red. GM have been well into black for a long time, hence the Gen3/4 and variants.

I know what fords situation is, and they have no one to blame but themselves. And like I said, name one engine that would suit this application. Considering the mustang simply does not have the performance that it should, any engine built for it won't have the performance required for our market....

We have a very demanding v8 market in australia now, and people are wanting power, but with the fuel economy of a new technology engine.

Think about it. If you option up a GT-P with every bell and whistle possible, with a 350kw engine, you have a Merc rival of some sorts. Now, sure, I'm not saying its right up there you know, I'm simply saying that people in the market for something merc, say 5 years old, low k's, about the $100k mark with a v8, just might go for something like a GT-P with the goods if the engine has the balls to match the bark, and they can save about 20 grand but still have plenty of features.

But currently we simply don't have an angine to allow for it. now, I said 350kw, that's just a random number, im not expecting that much, but with the weight of our cars, its going to have to have some serious mumbo, most likely around 600nm of torque (damn that would be nice)....

Anyway, im not even fully away yet, so if that doesn't make sense, or has lots of spelling errors, I appologise.... It was long night.

[Lumpen]

  saleen said:

  Blonk said:

Holdens suc..... No go away Expensive Daewoo lovers and lick your crutches....

I have seen a very smooth T run a very smooth 12....

I have seen  a forced induction ls1 battling to run low 13's.....

They may sound good but so does a nissan motor at 11,000rpm....

Expensive Daewoo site is elsewhere.. Please refrain from dribbling here

I like this dude, he makes me look less of a f$#kwit.......................

And Jesus Christ isn't that a Bloody Hard job, Rob

[mickq]

  XRT UTE said:

  turb06 said:

Are the LS2's 297kw?  I recon a heap of GTS owners will be pretty sh*tty about that.  Either way when the mods start on the LS2's I think its gonna be a well tuned phase 2 at least, to be able to keep up on the strip.

Dazza.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yep, and they will find their way into SS commos in '06.. For now though, only in HSV.

SS with near 300kw stock.. hmm..

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The LS2 engine for the SS will be announced between August and the end of October this year. Exact date not available yet. You will start to see them on the roads around then.

Ford will HAVE to upgrade the XR6T as its main competitor is the SS. All Ford will need to do is tweak the boost a bit and make a few minor mods, and a T will keep up with an LS2 with ease.

You can bet they will do something...they cant afford not to.

[geea]

  dswiders said:

  Quote

Who here would give an LS2 a run & come out on top.

Craig (GEEA) you out there ?

I'd like to see Craig give the guy a run for his money

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Daniel. I'm here buddy.

I'll gladly take on any LS1's or LS2's that come along. On the road in street trim I cant see myself getting beaten. There are a few twin turbo'd LS1's getting about that run slicks and can do me at the track but stick street rubber on them and all they'll see is my twin exhaust and tail lights disappearing up the road.

I have pulled up next to many HSV's and SS's and most don't want to run. The ones that do wish they hadn't. :lol:

I saw the Red Expensive Daewoo at Willowbank, nice sounding car. but 12.7 aint going to be enough me thinks.

Geea.

[jnr]

  geea said:

  dswiders said:

  Quote

Who here would give an LS2 a run & come out on top.

Craig (GEEA) you out there ?

I'd like to see Craig give the guy a run for his money

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Daniel. I'm here buddy.

I'll gladly take on any LS1's or LS2's that come along. On the road in street trim I cant see myself getting beaten. There are a few twin turbo'd LS1's getting about that run slicks and can do me at the track but stick street rubber on them and all they'll see is my twin exhaust and tail lights disappearing up the road.

I have pulled up next to many HSV's and SS's and most don't want to run. The ones that do wish they hadn't. :lol:

I saw the Red Expensive Daewoo at Willowbank, nice sounding car. but 12.7 aint going to be enough me thinks.

Geea.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Now that's confidence. You see that's the type of reply I wanted from the original post. I dont know your exact mods Geea but a good search on this forum & I will find them. All I'll need is 10K & Im there.