Dont Get Ripped

[RATT]

Methods of Negotiations

I understand how dealerships set up margins on their vehicles, what their expense costs are, and what their pure profit margins are.

Money can be saved in the following areas:

 Trading (Value of your trade vehicle)

 Loads (Minimum profit the car for sale must return)

 Reco, money spent on vehicle (Write off money )

 Dealer Delivery (New car change for dealer to deliver vehicle)

 LC Tax (Under $57,009)

 Factory write back money

 Money makers (Cash back deals)

 Accessories (Wheels/Tint)

How I determine what a car is really worth:

 New Cars (Motor / Wheels magazine)

 Used Cars (Glasses guide 2003)

 Trade ins (Glasses guide 2003)

Motor and Wheels magazines are updated regularly and are an excellent guide to recommended retail pricing. Glasses guide is an industry standard bible of whole-sale prices and RRP prices for new and used vehicles for up to 10 years.

Cars, like all things cost money. It costs money to get them shipped to dealers. It costs money to get the prepared, you know the guys/girls you don't see out the back fitting your accessories, detailing it and generally making sure it's roadworthy.

Some dealers have set margins on their used cars. You know the stuff they call profit. Some don't. New cars have a margin set by the manufacturer and the dealer is not obligated to follow this.

But look, you seem to really know your stuff so next time you buy a new car go and speak to Wheels/ Motor I'm sure they can sell you one. And next time you want to trade, heck take it the Glasses guide I hear they pay top dollar.

Spider webs are designed to capture prey, leaving it in a powerless predicament. A dealership is designed to have the same effect on clients. Sales people and sales managers are like spiders continually weaving this web around vulnerable clients. Therefore, by having sales people come to you, rather than you going to them, you are taking them out of their comfort zone. This makes negotiations a lot easier because sales people are more vulnerable to hasty decisions and pressure from management over the phone.

I`m not sure how much this may help anyone I hope it made some sense it just would have been to much for me to edit and go into I`m happy to answer ?????

I go out to people if they need assistance, and it's riiiight in my comfort zone.

If we're spiders you are an annoying itch.

If you feel that I don't know what I am talking about you are free to browse other Ford related sites and see what people say about how I do things.

Edited 23/01/05 02:21 PM by RATT

[TURBOXR]

Fellas im new at this game, and after having read everything on this page and initially siding with typhoon on this after a bad experience, im going to have to side with ratt. This is the net and ratt could be a 102 year old woman with a prosthetic torso from arkansaw, and have no experience in the car dealing business whatsoever, but he just tore your story apart.

[ducatijb]

Ratt is a genuine Ford salesperson who does go the extra yard with his customers

Strewth there is enough of them on here to back that up

[RATT]

This is not a guide its just some info I have taken from a workbook of mine. I have a lot of info on the car game that iam happy to share in more depth if anyone is intrested. Please no wankas I will not answer any posts that are just trying to piss me of,. if you would like some help then ask if your not intrested then dont post bullsh*t I KNOW WHAT I`M TALKING ABOUT!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why don't you elaborate on what this workbook actually is. If it's just the dealer you worked for then obviously not every dealer will have that attitude. I have never seen any workbook or training sessions with such nonsense.

But please feel free to elaborate on this "workbook".

I have workbooks from training sessions which I am happy to scan just for you and show you what is really being drummed into the heads of sales staff these days, ie customer satisfaction, and repeat business. Not what you claim.

If you don't answer any of my posts then YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. So please enlighten us all with a response to my posts with facts not hogwash.

[JB]

[Typhoon]

This is not a guide its just some info I have taken from a workbook of mine. I have a lot of info on the car game that iam happy to share in more depth if anyone is intrested. Please no wankas I will not answer any posts that are just trying to piss me of,. if you would like some help then ask if your not intrested then dont post bullsh*t I KNOW WHAT I`M TALKING ABOUT!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why don't you elaborate on what this workbook actually is. If it's just the dealer you worked for then obviously not every dealer will have that attitude. I have never seen any workbook or training sessions with such nonsense.

But please feel free to elaborate on this "workbook".

I have workbooks from training sessions which I am happy to scan just for you and show you what is really being drummed into the heads of sales staff these days, ie customer satisfaction, and repeat business. Not what you claim.

If you don't answer any of my posts then YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. So please enlighten us all with a response to my posts with facts not hogwash.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not all dearlerships are the same.

This is not a trianing book if you read the post carefully I state its out of MY owen workbook not a companys

Yes what I have posted are worst case issues. not everyday.

I worked for the largest ford dealer in s.a

You are stupid to say dealers wont try to make 100/200/500/1000% profit its in there best intrest and sales managers get paid on bottem line so shut up

there I have responded to some of your crap I will respond to no more.

you sound like a typical sales man/women doing 65hrs a week give it a rest mate

I`m not trying to start a war here, I made $52000 dollers in the car game in my first year not inc the company car and I did not do it buy doing load deals I was pused buy the men above me to FUCG the public over. I dont know what small town country dearler you might work for but we were doing 165cars a month from one yard, so dont you sit there on your sh.t ass key board and tell me IM HAVE GOT IT ALL WRONG! Oh and buy the way when I left the company they made sure every Training book I had was taken from me WONDER WHY. So dont post anymore ok any old sales men/women could pick my post to bits I know its not flawless.

:pooh head

[F6_Tornado]

Sounds to me that Someone recently get sacked from their job????

[Dagabond]

Well there's an intelligent response....and to think its only Monday...

Remember guy's it's just the Internet!

[Typhoon]

Sounds to me that Someone recently get sacked from their job????

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok that's it this forum can go to hell it dose not matter what you post there will always be stupid dumb Phucks, I did not get sacked you dim wit I left to go back to school to educate my self so I would not have to rip my fellow man of for a living

god what is wrong with everyone Phuck this this forum is sh*t and to think I was about to give so dough

[F6_Tornado]

Oh and buy the way when I left the company they made sure every Training book I had was taken from me WONDER WHY.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Geez we are Uptight .

I read that comments and its usually something that is done when someone get's fired.

Not when someone has left to further their education and left on Great working terms.

Good luck with the Schooling and your next Job.