Fpv, Where Is This F6 Typhoon?

[Dr Z]

Below are some quotes from FPV's web site for the F6 Typhoon in orange together with my observations. Feel free to share your own opinions/thoughts/views so that we can collectively contribute towards separating reality from marketing drivel so perhaps they can get it right next time.

Ford Performance Vehicles has set a new benchmark in the Australian high performance car segment with the mind blowing F6 Typhoon.

Where is the evidence? Oh, you mean the high level of 550Nm of Torque? That's the ONLY measure? If you make statements like this, support it with something credible. We will get back to that Torque below.

The F6 Typhoon is set to be the next Australian motoring icon and has joined the already proven FPV line-up, further reinforcing FPV's mantra of Total Performance.

Once again, show us the evidence. The only evidence the market sees is that HSV is continuing to lead the way on Total Performance in a straight line, and has been doing so for far too long now.

However, the real story is torque. All 550Nm on tap from just 2000 rpm and remaining constant all the way through to 4250 rpm.

Constant Torque curve? Has anyone at FPV seen a dyno run for an F6 Typhoon. Granted it is NEARLY constant up to 4250RPM, but then it drops down a cliff into the abyss. Why was it necessary to CRIPPLE the power output at 4250RPM? To protect your ailing GT sales? There appear to be no logical reasons to do this other than a marketing reason. Such a conservative state of tune with STANDARD injectors and a bigger intercooler? Why not bigger injectors and crank the F6 up to at least 330kW..ahh marketing got in the way.

Anyone here believe that FPV = Total Performance? If so, what do you use to measure performance? Certainly not straight-line performance. At least HSV bothers to share their times on their websites and makes it a point to give their interpretation of performance some street and market credibility.

Looking forward to everyone's contribution, especially FPV's. Come on David Flint, you know you really want to reply!

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.

[Turbo6man]

Good luck getting any reply from David Flintstone ... FPV are still in the stone ages compared to the opposition. They, when Tickford, used to build some damn good cars. They were let down by poor marketing and lack of straight line grunt. Pity it all came to an end once the marketing division got into gear - now it is all sales hype and the product has become just mediocre, AND is still let down by straight line grunt.

There needs to be a big shake up at FPV. I've said it before - the wrong guy was given the axe last year. IMO it is time for David Flint to step up and take responsibility for the flagging performance of FPV's product line-up. Then he should step down as CEO and someone with a real passion for cars be put in his place.

[Buf-Phoon]

Me , I love my T but the Phoon initially had my interest as my next car ...........I still may, providing this Nancy Boy hiding behind the GTs skirts dissappears.

What could have been a quantum leap in the eyes of the public for FPV has now turned into an unfortunately insidious slow death. Unless they get their sh#t together quick and can salvage something out of this debacle.

FPV are also hell bent on pigging up their vehicles further hampering the knobbled new comer..........FFS , how hard can it be to get your positioning right.

Understand your damned consumer..... research , research, research and then ignore them. Good work Ford just lost yet another car to the aftermarket boys unless you start showing just a modicum of common sense. It aint that hard and I'm in sales WTF Luxury pack phase 2 Ts with change in the pocket is going to hammer your Phoon margins baaaad. Might hang out for the clearance sales as the bean counters will be watching with interest

Sorry to the Phoon boys, but Ford have just missed the automotive opportunity of the decade through their pig ignorance

[Mr X]

The disappointing thing is that when the F6 was first heard about,there were many who thought it would be FPV's GTS beater.Expectations for straight line performance ranged from flat to mid 13's but FPV have delivered a car that runs low to mid 14's.For whatever the reason,too slow again.

[TurboDewd]

Another thing which people dont comment on enough is the lack of an auto for the F6.

70% of XR6Ts are autos! The market preference is clear as day.

And the F6's extra weight...where did it all come from?

The F6's 14.0 ¼ mile is respectable, but its price and hype dont quite match up...

I think FPV should have ensured that the quarter mile cracked the psychological 13 second mark by adding 10kW and/or shedding 30kg.

[Dr Z]

Good posts everyone. To clarify some of the questions/comments, lets do an XR6T versus F6 performance comparison:

1. Wheels magazine:

XR6T 0-400m: 14.3s

F6 0-400m: 14.6s

Win for XR6T.

Performance tally: XR6T 1 F6 0

2. Motor magazine:

XR6T 0-400m: 14.14s (on a 40 degree day at Avalon airport!)

F6 0-400m: 14.64s (on a 25 degree day)

Win for XR6T.

Performance tally: XR6T 2 F6 0

3. Motor magazine:

XR6T best lap around Winton: 1:46.28

F6 best lap around Winton: 1:46.46 (on a 5 degree cooler day than XR6T!)

Win for XR6T.

Performance tally: XR6T 3 F6 0

Do you think for an extra $13,745 we ought to expect a little more Performance from a Ford Performance Vehicle?

Why don't we get it? Why do Ford/FPV fans have to accept "good but not great" time and time again? In the case of the F6, running standard injectors and a very conservative tune after 4000RPM is the clear answer. Check out the F6 dyno sheets and it is clear to everyone who can read a dyno sheet.

So why did this happen? Marketing or warranty reasons?

Perhaps. Even if that is the case, perhaps Ford/FPV product placement and after-sales support needs a serious re-think, otherwise how do we explain that HSV can deliver a Clubsport that runs consistent 13s quarter miles with full warranty?

My overarching point is FPV promised something VERY SPECIAL and they did NOT deliver! All the above evidence so far suggests that the F6 is NOT very special compared to the already great bang-for-bucks value XR6T.

As Ford/FPV fans we should not have to always settle for second best. FPV, how about making quick reliable cars then supporting them with good after-sales service and honouring warranty or the market will continue to vote with their wallets as they are doing now with declining FPV sales compared to HSV.

David Flint, or anyone from FPV, we are still waiting for your response.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.

[Falchoon]

As Ford/FPV fans we should not have to always settle for second best.  FPV, how about making quick reliable cars then supporting them with good after-sales service and honouring warranty or the market will continue to vote with their wallets as they are doing now with declining FPV sales compared to HSV.

David Flint, or anyone from FPV, we are still waiting for your response.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z. 

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[stardust]

Good luck getting any reply from David Flintstone

Maybe you will some Rubble from his mate Barney :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ken

[Typhoon]

I agree with everthing posted here!

[-carty]

I think that the motor mag's just got a bad build...

like with somje xr6t's, we have all heard here that some people getting thier cars dyno'd and getting 190rwkw, and others getting 220rwkw, cant you people just see that maybe this has happened with the F6's...

so far I havent heard of any real complaints from chris's f6...

how bout you people get your head out of the clouds and just look at reality