Would You Cancel An Order For A Typhoon?

[Guest]

I have this little story for you F6 lovers,

The F6 that Motor tested was F'D from the start, it was the same vehicle used for the photo shoots in the Blue print mag. This vehicle didn't have the twin plate only a single because the twins were not ment to be ready when FPV built this F6.

The boys at Garlic had the vehicle the 2 days before the Motor mag review and had given the F6 an out right flogg'en. I was due to go and test drive the vehicle the day before the big test with motor, but got a phone call 2 hours before the drive and was told there was a problem with the F6 box and the vehicle was being sent back to FPV.

I don't know how the same vehicle then ended up going to the track for its review instead of going back to FPV, at the time I thought the dealer just didn't have time for me to drive it and the box problem was just his nice way of getting out of my test drive, when I found out it was not sent back and that the car had problems with sliping the penny dropped.

Yes other F6's 'may' have their problems holding onto the 550 but me thinks the problems with that F6 on that day was more of a the Ford dealers boys trying to cover their ass after see what it could realy do (how could you blame them).

About the single plate in the test F6, I can only say that's what I was told was in it on the day and since then no one realy wants to talk about it.

Last thing, I finally tested an F6 yesterday, and found it to be the best Ford Ive ever driven, so Im sold on it.

[Guest jteale]

  NOS XR said:

I have this little story for you F6 lovers,

The F6 that Motor tested was F'D from the start, it was the same vehicle used for the photo shoots in the Blue print mag. This vehicle didn't have the twin plate only a single because the twins were not ment to be ready when FPV built this F6.

The boys at Garlic had the vehicle the 2 days before the Motor mag review and had given the F6 an out right flogg'en. I was due to go and test drive the vehicle the day before the big test with motor, but got a phone call 2 hours before the drive and was told there was a problem with the F6 box and the vehicle was being sent back to FPV.

I don't know how the same vehicle then ended up going to the track for its review instead of going back to FPV, at the time I thought the dealer just didn't have time for me to drive it and the box problem was just his nice way of getting out of my test drive, when I found out it was not sent back and that the car had problems with sliping the penny dropped. 

Yes other F6's 'may' have their problems holding onto the 550 but me thinks the problems with that F6 on that day was more of a the Ford dealers boys trying to  cover their ass after see what it could realy do (how could you blame them).

About the single plate in the test F6, I can only say that's what I was told was in it on the day and since then no one realy wants to talk about it.

Last thing, I finally tested an F6 yesterday, and found it to be the best Ford Ive ever driven, so Im sold on it.

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Greg Mate, Don't forget the two PCOTY cars though ... what was wrong with them ... I am so utterly disappointed by the F6 (I am glad I didn't wait to get one) as I love the look of the car and would have one in a heartbeat just on looks ... but this first model is a serious worry ... just ask HypnoDoc!

I say buyer beware at the moment ... lets hope FPV get sorted and we get the car we should have got ... as far as cancelling orders ... I wouldn't and hope for the best, there are happy customers ... just hope you don't get one of the duds

I hope Ford reads these threads as they need a wake up call ...

Cheers, Jason.

[Redhawk]

Look forward to it Doc, really.

Hope the 'goodies' don't make it too 'yum,yum'!!

Hope the lightness in the front end is dampered down some.

Look forward to catching up soon.

Cheers,

Al

[Dr Z]

  Redhawk said:

  Dr Z said:

For all the reasons mentioned here and lots of other places, I would ONLY get an F6 over an XR6T if I could stick at least an APS Phase II in it so it has 300+ rwkW.  Otherwise, kept stock, stick with XR6T, get better brakes (factory premium or after market), Luxo Pack etc. and save some money.  that's if I was doing a new XR6T vs new F6 comparison.

However, I would not go from a current XR6T to an F6...IMHO, it is NOT worth the $30,000+ difference in value. 

If you need a reason to cancel your F6 order, tell your dealer that you believed that the F6 had a flat torque curve because you believed in the FPV marketing hype, but when you saw the actual dyno figures (see APS site for example), it is clear that the torque curve falls off a cliff at the top end to "dumb down" its potential so that the marketing lemmings can protect the sales-falling hyper-ailing "GT" brand name.

In reality, the F6 is slower than an APS Phase I in straight-line performance, and that should NEVER have been the case.  

The GT should never have been called a GT let alone Ford/FPV marketing running an advertisement with the XY GT "morphing" into the current GT.  The XY GT was streets ahead of it competition.  The current GT is just a tarted up XR8 just like the F6 is a tarted up XR6T! 

Ridiculous over-the-top so-far-removed-from-reality marketing hype for GT and F6.  Ford/FPV...nowhere to hide now...build better performing cars or let Holden/HSV continue the performance domination they are currently enjoying.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z. 

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What a crock of

You have obviously never driven the GT or compared it against the XR8 or XR6T going by your stupid comments.

To bag the GT because of Advertising hype is bloody ignorant.

The GT is streets ahead of the XR8, the XR8 handles like a XR6T with a great fat lump of lead in the front bumper.

The GT just tarted up, cops mate, the finish of the GT is streets ahead of the XR's, one of the main reasons for dumping the 'Silverhawk' was the finish in it looked cheap compared to the GT.

Comparing the BA GT to the XY GT is stupid (yes, FPV got it right by the morphing illusion) this car is so far ahead of the XY and so it should be after 30 odd years of technology. Try driving the XY around like you can the BA and you will end up with a face full of mountain/tree and motor. The GT is the best Aussie touring car on our roads today, absolutely 's on anything the opposition can throw at it for all round driving superiority.

Personally I would not even consider a F6, and agree with your comments on that car, but your comments on the GT are just crap, although you are entitled to your opinion and I will defend your right to air them, vigourously, no matter how ill informed, inane and stupid they are.

Cheers Mate,

A proud GT owner.............over to you 'mercturbo'.....

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Good passionate post that I mostly agree with but not necessarily the way you chose to blow your gasket. For the record, I have driven a few GT's but since it felt like driving a tarted up XR8, as in it only started to get going at 3500RPM then by 6000RPM it was all over, I chose the XR6T. Each to their own.

You intentionally missed the context about straight-line performance where the XY GT was way ahead of its competition in its OWN era, but the current GT is marginally ahead of a stock Expensive Daewoo SS, let alone heaps behind HSV. FPV's mantra is "Total Performance". I don't know how they measure performance but it certainly isn't in terms of straight-line performance. Ford/FPV are obviously NOT serious about straight-line performance that could deliver heaps of market and street credibility.

The XR6T outsells the XR8 by about 10 to 1. The current GT sales have fallen off a cliff compared to when people got intially excited about the GT brand name when it first came out. We all know that if they did not resurrect the GT brand name, they would have sold far fewer than they did. The current GT is a good car, but like the F6, could have been very special, especially carrying that GT moniker.

In short, the current GT does NOT stand out above the competition like its predecessor did but is a fair way behind it in straight-line performance (eg VZ Clubbie) so IMHO it is NOT worthy of the GT name because in the eyes of the increasingly aware market who have voted with their wallet, it merely resembles a tarted up XR8.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.

[vuster]

  Crazy F6 said:

Look I love my F6 and yes I have 300kw at rears it was my choice

I looked at buying a gt but then I look at the typhoon and thought for an overall package it has it all you will not be disapointed!

But with the edit coming out you should get 30+ kw and you dont need to tell the insurance companys anything

Vuster where do you live I will come around and take you for a lap in mine

Give me a call

0409 784 287

Cheers

Hilly

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Thanks for your generosity Hilly. I might take you up on that offer once I take delivery of my Typhoon. I guess it'll be hard for me not to go the extra mile and buy the phase 2 kit after sitting in your car. My head will say NO but my heart will say YES. Which one will win in the end?

If all this bad press continues then the only solution I see to block it all out is to wack that Phase 2 kit on. Then 99% of ricers and HSV's can sit in there cars speechless in shame after their encounter with one.

[Blown BA]

  Dr Z said:

  Redhawk said:

  Dr Z said:

For all the reasons mentioned here and lots of other places, I would ONLY get an F6 over an XR6T if I could stick at least an APS Phase II in it so it has 300+ rwkW.  Otherwise, kept stock, stick with XR6T, get better brakes (factory premium or after market), Luxo Pack etc. and save some money.  that's if I was doing a new XR6T vs new F6 comparison.

However, I would not go from a current XR6T to an F6...IMHO, it is NOT worth the $30,000+ difference in value. 

If you need a reason to cancel your F6 order, tell your dealer that you believed that the F6 had a flat torque curve because you believed in the FPV marketing hype, but when you saw the actual dyno figures (see APS site for example), it is clear that the torque curve falls off a cliff at the top end to "dumb down" its potential so that the marketing lemmings can protect the sales-falling hyper-ailing "GT" brand name.

In reality, the F6 is slower than an APS Phase I in straight-line performance, and that should NEVER have been the case.  

The GT should never have been called a GT let alone Ford/FPV marketing running an advertisement with the XY GT "morphing" into the current GT.  The XY GT was streets ahead of it competition.  The current GT is just a tarted up XR8 just like the F6 is a tarted up XR6T! 

Ridiculous over-the-top so-far-removed-from-reality marketing hype for GT and F6.  Ford/FPV...nowhere to hide now...build better performing cars or let Holden/HSV continue the performance domination they are currently enjoying.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z. 

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What a crock of

You have obviously never driven the GT or compared it against the XR8 or XR6T going by your stupid comments.

To bag the GT because of Advertising hype is bloody ignorant.

The GT is streets ahead of the XR8, the XR8 handles like a XR6T with a great fat lump of lead in the front bumper.

The GT just tarted up, cops mate, the finish of the GT is streets ahead of the XR's, one of the main reasons for dumping the 'Silverhawk' was the finish in it looked cheap compared to the GT.

Comparing the BA GT to the XY GT is stupid (yes, FPV got it right by the morphing illusion) this car is so far ahead of the XY and so it should be after 30 odd years of technology. Try driving the XY around like you can the BA and you will end up with a face full of mountain/tree and motor. The GT is the best Aussie touring car on our roads today, absolutely 's on anything the opposition can throw at it for all round driving superiority.

Personally I would not even consider a F6, and agree with your comments on that car, but your comments on the GT are just crap, although you are entitled to your opinion and I will defend your right to air them, vigourously, no matter how ill informed, inane and stupid they are.

Cheers Mate,

A proud GT owner.............over to you 'mercturbo'.....

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Good passionate post that I mostly agree with but not necessarily the way you chose to blow your gasket. For the record, I have driven a few GT's but since it felt like driving a tarted up XR8, as in it only started to get going at 3500RPM then by 6000RPM it was all over, I chose the XR6T. Each to their own.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.

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Nothing upsets Dr Z......it's called meditation

[hypnodoc]

Thanks for your generosity Hilly. I might take you up on that offer once I take delivery of my Typhoon. I guess it'll be hard for me not to go the extra mile and buy the phase 2 kit after sitting in your car. My head will say NO but my heart will say YES. Which one will win in the end?

If all this bad press continues then the only solution I see to block it all out is to wack that Phase 2 kit on. Then 99% of ricers and HSV's can sit in there cars speechless in shame after their encounter with one.

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Typhoon from the Clown Factory = Ho Hum

Typhoon with Edit or APS Stage 2 = Awesome, from what others are saying, please please let it be true

[hypnodoc]

  Redhawk said:

Look forward to it Doc, really.

Hope the 'goodies' don't make it too 'yum,yum'!! 

Hope the lightness in the front end is dampered down some.

Look forward to catching up soon.

Cheers,

          Al

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Mate the man from Pedders has nailed the front end to the ground, the high speed bounce has gone and the handling has improved significantly . Still don't know what I'm going to do with the thing when I get the next GT though.

[Redhawk]

Thanks for your reply Dr Z, oh, and that was not blowing my stack, just a little rumble........

The handling of the GT over the XR8 is, IMHO, way superior, both EID and myself were amazed at the balance the GT has over the XR8, the GT is more like the XR6T in that respect as I quiet liked the XR6T for it's balance.

It's funny how you comment on HSV being so far ahead of the GT when quiet a few testers have come out and said the GT has the goods on the HSV as far as the total package goes. Sure I would like Ford to have given the GT some more top end revs and a slightly better gear ratio to get the 'straight line' performance up, but as this car is a Grand Tourer that is what I like about it.

If 30 rwkw's is tarting up then bring on the painted ladies!!.....

AS for the GTS, welllllllll........perhaps a slight edit, cold air induction and a couple more little goodies then I reckon the GT will eat it, for a lot less $$$$ too than the GTS. Had a little run with a GTS a couple of weeks ago and I was quite suprised how the 'fox' went against it, can't see $100,000 worth of performance there.

But, each to there own, you like your XR6T, I the GT, true the XY had the straight line brute force, but try to stop it safely, handling was not that superior either. With the advancement of technology the experience of driving is so much more enjoyable when you are faced with a good road that takes a bit more skill, feel and concentration, than slamming down the throttle and hanging on, sorry age must be showing here. So, judging by my experiences with the BA line I do enjoy the GT and have no regrets in going from the T to the GT.

One other little note, I suppose Ford could put out a car that would have it all over the opposition in all aspects, but would the punters be prepared to pay the price, I don't think so, for the price I reckon the GT is good value.

Safe, happy and enjoyable motoring........

[Guest jteale]

  Redhawk said:

One other little note, I suppose Ford could put out a car that would have it all over the opposition in all aspects, but would the punters be prepared to pay the price, I don't think so, for the price I reckon the GT is good value.

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I would pay extra for a standard Ford car that smashes a standard HSV, etc ... they have potential customers, but instead they release a disappointing F6 ... and cripple it so it doesn't hammer a GT ... very ordinary!

Don't get me wrong ... I love the GT for what it is ... but FPV need a car to seriously challenge the HSV brand ... and I thought it would be the F6!

How wrong was I

Cheers, Jason.