stardust Member 537 Member For: 20y 8m 27d Location: Brisbane Posted 10/01/05 10:28 AM Share Posted 10/01/05 10:28 AM Why not one large and one small. The smaller one to spool quickly just above idle whick will give boost down low while the bigger one spools up and works on the higer revs ?Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351 Member 184 Member For: 20y 8m 4d Posted 10/01/05 10:28 AM Share Posted 10/01/05 10:28 AM hey guys we are talking about ford here they are most probably planning to make a twin turbo car but no doubt if it is released it wont live up to the media hype that will surround it. they will spend a whole lot of time and money preparing it for release and when they do it will be as mild as a camry , with lucky to scrape 300 kw and just for the hell of it they will add 50-100 kgs but of course fpv will tell you that it is the whole package that counts not the fact that an sv8 can keep up with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum_velocity Lemming No #5 Member 1,991 Member For: 20y 4m 17d Gender: Male Location: Endeavour Hills, Victoria Posted 10/01/05 10:35 AM Share Posted 10/01/05 10:35 AM I think it would be a great move by FPV however I dont think they will have the balls to do it. after all the hype surrounding the typhoon before release I can just imagine how much slake FPV would cop for a TWIN TURBO setup on the already "very potent" xr6 turbo and typhoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 5m 11d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/01/05 10:39 AM Share Posted 10/01/05 10:39 AM 351 said: hey guys we are talking about ford here they are most probably planning to make a twin turbo car but no doubt if it is released it wont live up to the media hype that will surround it. they will spend a whole lot of time and money preparing it for release and when they do it will be as mild as a camry , with lucky to scrape 300 kw and just for the hell of it they will add 50-100 kgs but of course fpv will tell you that it is the whole package that counts not the fact that an sv8 can keep up with you <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Oh how right you are 351, twin turbo my ar$e , they can't even get the single job right and they should at least sort the diff probs before they start worrying about another technical nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 3m 25d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 10/01/05 10:59 AM Share Posted 10/01/05 10:59 AM Stardust, some supras ran two different sized turbos. the smaller one feed the bigger one. It is very difficult to get a seamless power transition from when one stops to the other one takes over. sometimes a hiccup can be felt on power....All I know is if FORD brought out a twin turbo Typhoon/Tornado, I'd be one of the first at their counter. Not for the OUTRIGHT power it may or not have, but the driveability would be much much improved. I'd take a smidgen more power on the top end from 2000/2800 rpm.. happy camper.The big drag cars use one big asss turbo for monster 1/4 mile times, yeah for sure, but they also use NOS to get the big blighters spooled up to power making RPMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYF6 Donating Members 172 Member For: 20y 4m Gender: Male Location: Earth, I think? Posted 10/01/05 11:31 AM Share Posted 10/01/05 11:31 AM There is no reason, imho, for FMC/FPV to consider a twin turbo set-up when there is so much untapped potential in the current set up with a single Why bother re-engineering something they have only realy scratched the surface of. Shorten the inlet tract. Fit a real plenum. Play with the boost and increase the fuel delivery systems. Put a decent exhaust manifold on the current single. All items more easily done than stuffing around trying to get a set of twins to work. Why think they would get twins working when they have not gotten the single working to its potential yet. I think FMC/FPV would be crazy to stuff around with a twin set-up when they have got everything they need at their fingertips right now. Fix the items above and remove 80% of the current lag and fix the driveline/diff issues at the same time. Even better still, learn to drive 'em right and lag is not an issue.What next, a suggestion that FPV are developing a supercharger fitted upstream of the twin turbos to make sure they both spool up quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbocorty Donating Members 178 Member For: 21y 6m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 10/01/05 12:06 PM Share Posted 10/01/05 12:06 PM hi gents,Please don't be fooled...a twin turbo set up has only got marginal lag improvement over a single. If you don't believe me, just take a Nissan GTR for a drive. You will be disgusted at the "LAG" that these vehicles have, and how annoying they are to drive, especially in traffic. The XR6T is dream compared to other turbo vehicles.Single turbo will do...Twin turbo "sounds good" for marketing.My opinion only.Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatV8 Artificially Aspirated Member 951 Member For: 21y 2m 30d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/01/05 09:08 PM Share Posted 10/01/05 09:08 PM FPV GTHO said: Benny said: FPV GTHO said: Single's give more power so I dont know why theyre chasing such an idea<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Two is always better than one. Some of the fastest GTR's in the world run unbelieveably large twin turbo setups after having a big single which didn't provide enough air. For example twin 3037's over something like a single T51R.I don't think we'll be seeing twins on any of the ford line up mainly due to cost and really I can't see the need.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah well I think its the fastest GTR in the world uses a single. Singles will provide more boost than twins, the benefit of twins is you can run 2 smaller ones rather than one huge one and the smaller turbines will spool up faster<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry, you think wrong The HKS GT-R which is the worlds fastest runs two prototype HKS turbos... Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Member 1,869 Member For: 21y 8m 3d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 11/01/05 01:50 AM Share Posted 11/01/05 01:50 AM eatV8 said: FPV GTHO said: Benny said: FPV GTHO said: Single's give more power so I dont know why theyre chasing such an idea<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Two is always better than one. Some of the fastest GTR's in the world run unbelieveably large twin turbo setups after having a big single which didn't provide enough air. For example twin 3037's over something like a single T51R.I don't think we'll be seeing twins on any of the ford line up mainly due to cost and really I can't see the need.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah well I think its the fastest GTR in the world uses a single. Singles will provide more boost than twins, the benefit of twins is you can run 2 smaller ones rather than one huge one and the smaller turbines will spool up faster<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry, you think wrong The HKS GT-R which is the worlds fastest runs two prototype HKS turbos... Cheers.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>World fastest GTR has GT3540R x2 running a 7.671 1/4 mile.Would be good to see the T with a reasonable twin turbo set up but with the torgue of a 4ltr engine that can already produce some quite impressive figures I can't see Ford throwing the money at it. I'm always willing to be proved wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slymeat Team Kickass Donating Members 1,926 Member For: 21y 2m 12d Gender: Male Location: Albion Park, NSW Posted 11/01/05 02:00 AM Share Posted 11/01/05 02:00 AM FPV GTHO said: Single's give more power so I dont know why theyre chasing such an ideaHuh. You use a small primary and a bigger secondary, you get more power faster than using a single turbo. Two is allways better than one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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