Gran Turismo 4 And Fpv

[eatV8]

GT4  IS a Simulator, V8 Supercars is Arcade based.  And I for one will trade realistic handling over damage any day.  Plus you get the bonus of better graphics, much better graphics.

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If its a "simulator" then why does it not include fuel usage? why in GT2 and GT3 did your tyres become stuffed after one lap? if its a simulator why is there no incar view? GT has a long way to go before it can be called a simulator. Each time a new GT game is released its just the same thing with more cars or prettier graphics, the thing they need to get right is the computer AI of the drivers. PGR2 on xbox sh*ts all over GT3 for this and if GT4 Prologue is any indication of the proper game than PGR2 is going to rule GT4 too. Oh yeah, and as someone mentioned earlier, you need more thean six cars in a race.

Dazza.

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Getting picky now arnt you? Fuel useage? On the longer race you have to stop for rubber, so dont you think fuel would be done at same time? As for the tyres wearing out after one lap? I dont have this problem. Maybe because I dont have the throttle 100% all the time and slide around corners which I notice alot of people doing. Driving in a controlled very smooth way (amazingly like real racing is done) the tyres last. You abuse them they wear quick. Very simple. PGR2 is one of the most ARCADE style racing games availible. So if you are going to try compare it to GT series you are obviously not getting the point of Gran Turismo. We all know PS2 is not the greatest of platforms and therefore the number of cars on track will be limited when the visual is high (V82 has 20 cars, but graphics are not on level of GT) To me 6 cars are fine. I qualify in 1st place, I lead the whole races so I dont give two hoots whats behind me

[ExAreSix]

If its a "simulator" then why does it not include fuel usage? why in GT2 and GT3 did your tyres become stuffed after one lap? if its a simulator why is there no incar view?  GT has a long way to go before it can be called a simulator.  Each time a new GT game is released its just the same thing with more cars or prettier graphics, the thing they need to get right is the computer AI of the drivers.  PGR2 on xbox sh*ts all over GT3 for this and if GT4 Prologue is any indication of the proper game than PGR2 is going to rule GT4 too.  Oh yeah, and as someone mentioned earlier, you need more thean six cars in a race.

Dazza.

Fuel use? Meh, most races weren't long enough to warrant it. Except the enduros.

Just pretend you're taking on fuel every lap when you change tyres.

Oh, and only the super grippy softs would go after one lap. Use the Super softs for your lap records. Mediums to Hard for races. Just like you do in the real world

Incar view? Can you imagine having interiors done for every car in the game?? That's 450+ interiors? Add another 4 yrs to development, and I don't think the disc is capable of holding all that data either. You've got no peripheral vision with in car views anyway.

I think the gameplay the GT series offers is matched by none. With all those cars, the pretty graphics, the different handling characteristics of each car. The tuning, the prize cars keeping you motivated. It's got a huge immersion factor.

I'm buying a PS2 just for GT4.

[turb06]

GT4  IS a Simulator, V8 Supercars is Arcade based.  And I for one will trade realistic handling over damage any day.  Plus you get the bonus of better graphics, much better graphics.

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If its a "simulator" then why does it not include fuel usage? why in GT2 and GT3 did your tyres become stuffed after one lap? if its a simulator why is there no incar view? GT has a long way to go before it can be called a simulator. Each time a new GT game is released its just the same thing with more cars or prettier graphics, the thing they need to get right is the computer AI of the drivers. PGR2 on xbox sh*ts all over GT3 for this and if GT4 Prologue is any indication of the proper game than PGR2 is going to rule GT4 too. Oh yeah, and as someone mentioned earlier, you need more thean six cars in a race.

Dazza.

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Getting picky now arnt you? Fuel useage? On the longer race you have to stop for rubber, so dont you think fuel would be done at same time? As for the tyres wearing out after one lap? I dont have this problem. Maybe because I dont have the throttle 100% all the time and slide around corners which I notice alot of people doing. Driving in a controlled very smooth way (amazingly like real racing is done) the tyres last. You abuse them they wear quick. Very simple. PGR2 is one of the most ARCADE style racing games availible. So if you are going to try compare it to GT series you are obviously not getting the point of Gran Turismo. We all know PS2 is not the greatest of platforms and therefore the number of cars on track will be limited when the visual is high (V82 has 20 cars, but graphics are not on level of GT) To me 6 cars are fine. I qualify in 1st place, I lead the whole races so I dont give two hoots whats behind me

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Dont you think though that fuel usage might actually make these games challenging, just to assume fuel would magically be put into a car is quite silly, imagine at the end of one of those 100 lap races needing to stop for a splash and dash with only just enough lead to make it back out, but anyone who has finished those races know you usually win by more than 10 laps, who could be bothered qualifying when the only way for a challange is to start from the back and work your way forward, and that usually takes less than one lap. I was comparing the computer controlled cars with PGR2, yes its very arcade, but at least the drivers will actually try make proper overtake moves, they will draft you down a striaght and not continually ram into the back of your car till you move for them, the GT series are good, its just they arent a challenge, Need for Speed Underground has is more of a challenge

Dazza.

[XtRmn8]

IMO I am jet to play a game that is better then GT3. I am a big GT fan, bought both PS and PS2 just coz of this game! GT4 should be good. If its the same step as GT3 was from GT2 then I would be happy!

[240 T]

I lead the whole races so I dont give two hoots whats behind me

Sound like me I love GT3, seatle enduro, Stock SVT Mustang with Med-Hard race slicks, it rocks

I don't care if I don't get damage from smashing into other people cars because I don't do that sort of stuff when im racing.

If you want to do that them get destraction derby whatever, all I care about is...

Car's look real

Simulated handling

Car's sounding a little more real (Mustang at 7.500Rpm sounds like a civic and I don't evan want lto tell you what the C5 Zo6 sound like )

And hard competitors

[351]

I cannot waut to buy it , it woulkd have to be better than v8 supercars 2 which I was dissapointed in very much cos I had the original version on pc and it looked way better and seemed to be more accurate in its habling and damage

[corpex]

In Japan some GT events only have 6 cars. Whats the point of having damage anyway, if its going to be like V82 where you can have one front tyre and still outbreak the lead car wtf is that!!! :lol:

[Geeseman]

I cannot waut to buy it , it woulkd have to be better than v8 supercars 2 which I was dissapointed in very much cos I had the original version on pc and it looked way better and seemed to be more accurate in its habling and damage

Comparing the original PC game to a PS2 game is a bit harsh. The PS2 version of V82 looks years better than the original PS2 game and is very close to the graphic level of the Xbox. It has more cars on track, better textures, car damage and no pop up. As a package its way better than GT3. Switch to pro sim mode and the car handling is far more realistic.

[351]

that's a fair enough call cos I never played the original v8 game on playstation so I suppose it has improved in that respect but seeing that I have a pc and everyone else on this site also does I guess it may as well just be played on pc. there is also another game called gtr coming out on pc soon which I have played the demo and it is a very good simuklator and the thing with pc is you can customize the way the game looks and sounds properly

[turb06]

If anyone is interested there is a full preview of GT4 in this months HYPER>> gaming magazine, its fairly in depth but they do raise a few questions that have been raised in this thread, mainly about damage. An interesting point to note, is that the very next preview is for Forza Motorsport on the xbox, this game is being designed to be microsofts competitor to GT4, and at this stage it look alot more promising than GT4, there isnt as many cars and only half the tracks run in different configs 60 versions in total but it includes 300 of the same cars that GT4 have and they will include a full damage model with full approval from car makers, the reasons given for there being allowed to damage cars is that the damage model was created from real life test data from car makers, so it will detail safety aspects of crumple zones and stuff, and the other reason is that sony pissed a few manufacturers off while making the GT series and Sonys relationship with them just isnt good enough. Forza will also include full environment damage, so if you hit a wall, paint will be transfered to the wall from your car, same as if you run off the road the grass will become ripped up, paint transfer will also happen between cars that rub, Forza will also include visual styling nearly to the level of Need For Speed Underground as well as the technical stuff GT fans are used to, it also has a custom paint shop included and the biggest draw card xbox live online play.

The 2 previews are an awesome side by side comparison of the 2 games, and since I own GT4 Prologue, and am not satisfied with the improvements in enemy AI, I will be giving Forza a look before GT4.

Dazza.