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kbb although you may or may not be right the fact still remains who cares look at pretzels first post he wasnot looking to be a world beater he had everything in the car as always driven did not even check the tyres just did it to satisfy the masses!

he has no concerns about the dyno figures he came in with a basket of 200 apples his basket grew to 337 and now as it was to heavy for the drive train he has 300 apples not pears or anything else!

the point is he did what they asked even half hearted and still did better than those that were serious with what should have been beter packages eg the gt

[macka'sxr6t]

  xr6ikness said:

that's sounds right to me I ran 118 mph with 303 rwklw

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Jeff,

Was that you old car? now geea's

Are you assuming that Pretzel was WOT 100% of the time. He was the only one driving it so only he knows how hard he was pushing.

As far as KBB post goes. Nobody can convince me that if a car producing heaps of wheel spin will still run to its full potential and trap speed or driving into a head wind. At the end of the day you only have 400 metres to obtain your top speed, if 30% has no traction does'nt matter how much power you have you will never reach it.

macka

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  macka said:

  xr6ikness said:

that's sounds right to me I ran 118 mph with 303 rwklw

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Jeff,

Was that you old car? now geea's

Are you assuming that Pretzel was WOT 100% of the time. He was the only one driving it so only he knows how hard he was pushing.

As far as KBB post goes. Nobody can convince me that if a car producing heaps of wheel spin will still run to its full potential and trap speed or driving into a head wind. At the end of the day you only have 400 metres to obtain your top speed, if 30% has no traction does'nt matter how much power you have you will never reach it.

macka

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Macka, my best MPH has been when I have had wheel spin and also changed to early. I had my 122.36 mph with a 12.13 ET with wheel spin off the line and changing into 3rd way to early. My 11.93 was only 120.43mph I don't know how it works either but my quicker mph haven't been my fastest times.

Geea.

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Guys I hope we can keep this thread on topic and not turn it into some name calling session.

Lets keep it on track.

[macka'sxr6t]

  geea said:

Macka, my best MPH has been when I have had wheel spin and also changed to early. I had my 122.36 mph with a 12.13 ET with wheel spin off the line and changing into 3rd way to early. My 11.93 was only 120.43mph I don't know how it works either but my quicker mph haven't been my fastest times.

Geea.

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Craig,

How much wheels spin are we talking 5m or 20m and so on. Seems like it defies physics. Every metre you go forward with out full acceleration shortens your distance to achieve maximum speed. Exagerated even more by a heavy car.

macka

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  macka said:

  xr6ikness said:

that's sounds right to me I ran 118 mph with 303 rwklw

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Jeff,

Was that you old car? now geea's

Are you assuming that Pretzel was WOT 100% of the time. He was the only one driving it so only he knows how hard he was pushing.

G'day Macka

Yes it was my car at that time which is now Craig's

As for the rest of your comment I dont what what you mean

Im not knocking you or the product you have my issue is with your tuner who's on this site purely to promote himself and his business and not even to contribute to the running of the site and then stating he can run 337 rwklw with std inj and exhaust, And your running the same system + exhaust,injectors and the Macshaker and you have 297 rwklw

And the fact that his dyno has been proven to be up to 60+ klw out just does'nt seem to be right to me

Just my honest opinion C YA JEFF

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Macka I will agree with Craig here. My 11.7 was at 119.07mph I had about 334rwkw. I ran close to 122 mph on the next run but it was an 11.9.

I figure that if you hook up really well this brings your 60 foot time down which dramaticaly improves your ET.

Now that means that your car covers the 1/4 mile faster than it would with wheel spin which means that the car has less time to build MPH over that distance.

Hence a slightly lower MPH but a better ET due to the better 60 foot time.

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  xr6ikness said:

G'day Macka

Yes it was my car at that time which is now Craig's

As for the rest of your comment I dont what what you mean

Im not knocking you or the product you have my issue is with your tuner who's on this site purely to promote himself and his business

dw....ah ah sorry nope your wrong ive given more genuine advice than most

and not even to contribute to the running of the site

dw.... once again your wrong I ran an auction the site is paid, eugene ran an auction I added fitting the site is paid, I am also holding $120 from bbq for the site which as stated many times will be paid on request or as soon as I have my banners ready for this site to sponsor is that enough or not?

and then  stating  he can run 337 rwklw with std inj and exhaust,

dw.... I didn't but it can?

And your running the same system + exhaust,injectors and the Macshaker and you have 297 rwklw 

dw.... how long did it take me to tune your car macka how long will it take me to give you more?

And the fact that his dyno has been proven to be up to 60+ klw out just does'nt seem to be right to me

dw ....good reason for that there is no proof it is out is there just concerns

Just my honest opinion  C YA JEFF

dw....just my honest opinion too!!!!

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[macka'sxr6t]

Sorry Jeff,

Your right its a little vague.

My point is that some members are assuming that Preztels car which has been stated as having around 300 kw should have run a higher top end speed. If he really was'nt pushing the car at 100% throttle then the speed would be down.

That does'nt mean the car does'nt produce the HP needed to satisfy everyone's concerns.

I know your not having ago at me.

He's not the only one here at the moment doing the same thing. One that I'm sure he will rectify in time.

As for my car I won't be satisfied with anything less than 350 rwkw. If EMS or tuner does'nt produce it safely then there is plenty of other options. As a customer I feel it can be achieved.

macka

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  macka said:

  geea said:

Jeff has 2 "T's". He has quoted the power and times for both. The 13.01@115mph  302rwkw is for his manual.

13.01 @ 115 mph. with 302 rwkw. Jeff

13.2 @111 mph with 300 rwkw. Pretzel

It's funny how no one disputes Jeff's time and rwkw but when it comes to Pretzel and Dynowog everyone thinks there is something shifty going on. That's what has me confused.

I dont see anyone having a shot at Jeff's mates car because it has a roughly $10K APS Phase 3 system & that's about the 1st time I've seen him mention the manual going down the 1/4.

Scotty