Pretzel EMS makes MAGIC MUMBO ! Member 192 Member For: 21y 4m 12d Location: Melbourne Posted 20/12/04 03:34 AM Author Share Posted 20/12/04 03:34 AM JB said: Pretzel I would just like to take it for a drive, you can feel pretty quickly in a manual the differences in power.Mate lets head down to calder in Jan and go have some fun. I just want to run against another modded Manual, as I am keen to see how I go. From your figure we will be very close, as long as you do not dial in any more power I am happy to particiapte in any comparison dyno, track whatever, at the end of the day I just do it for fun, and could not give a who wins, it's the enjoyment of it all.Congrats to you and Nick on what you have achieved, if there is more in it great, if not, still a great effort, and exiciting to see a different path taken in moddying these bloody quick cars. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>JB,No problem, we'll arrange a time to road test !We'll also run them side by side at Calder and/or Dyno etc..I promise I won't dial in too much more between now and then ! :lol: I'm like you though, I am only in it for the fun (Although perhaps my fun will be a bit more private in future though !) Pretzel Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jteale Guests Posted 20/12/04 03:56 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 03:56 AM Dynowog said: ktford dont think he was going at you!the point is he has been telling the truth and it seems the masses that have been spending up big must be feeling like fools and not liking it so they try to make themselves feel les silly by trying to disprove what deep down inside they know to be true!if it makes people feel better ill charge double and split the diference with the site!no they wouildnot like that either?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dynowog,I think the only point is this, car with Intercooler and EMS is claiming 300-330rwkw with everything else stock ... yet now with a MPH figure probably suggesting something like 260rwkw (which is what I would expect) there are still claims it is making over 300 ... I am sure your solution is a great cost effective choice ... if a little untried and tested, but a worthy choice none the less ... I think the suggestion that if somebody chooses another path (other than yours) which may or may not cost more is a fool ... is a little patronising ... sometimes you are your own worst enemy ... just keep to the facts Cheers, Jason. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 11m 13d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 20/12/04 04:40 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 04:40 AM waxyjj said: Well done Pretzel and Dynowog,You have Proved to yourselves and Other's, Your car make's Good HP.Drag racing is art, ask Geea trying to get consistent time's, there are lot's of variables. Good luck.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Getting consistant times out of high powered turbo cars is bloody hard. You need to know the car backwards and also the state the track is in aswell. I've had hundreds of runs in my two "T's" and still have trouble getting consistant times.Geea. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretzel EMS makes MAGIC MUMBO ! Member 192 Member For: 21y 4m 12d Location: Melbourne Posted 20/12/04 04:47 AM Author Share Posted 20/12/04 04:47 AM geea said: Getting consistant times out of high powered turbo cars is bloody hard. You need to know the car backwards and also the state the track is in aswell. I've had hundreds of runs in my two "T's" and still have trouble getting consistant times.Geea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The lack of wheelspin off the line was the biggest thing I noticed first up, at the launch revs used, I would have gone nowhere on the road due to wheelspin, but the track had no wheelspin, and jut bogged down !Pretzel Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretzel EMS makes MAGIC MUMBO ! Member 192 Member For: 21y 4m 12d Location: Melbourne Posted 20/12/04 04:50 AM Author Share Posted 20/12/04 04:50 AM macka said: By the way Pretzel what gear were you in when you crossed the line?macka<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry Macka,Forgot to answer this one earlier !4th gear over the line from memory !I definately never had to use 5th gear.I can't even tell you what revs it was doing at the end either ! Didn't bother to look !Pretzel Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatz Member 78 Member For: 20y 5m 8d Posted 20/12/04 05:20 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 05:20 AM how much is a emsjust looking for a comp for my gtr motorim in sydney.. any name of places recomended??cheerspete Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 20y 5m 16d Location: In The Ute Posted 20/12/04 06:08 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 06:08 AM The way I read it all these guyz (macka Pretzel and dynowog) have tried to convey throughout the whole ugly topic was the fact that you can get 300+rwkws from standard injectors which was unheard of before now and against all common previous practice. The fact that its cost efficient is obvious and a real benefit no doubt but not the real issue at all.What people must understand is R&D is what this thread is all about and 5 years ago if I told you that ford would be kicking V8 ass’s with a 6 cylinder you would have laughed at me…In fact if I had of said Ford would release a “Turbo” 6 you would have laughed!!! Look around the internet now some XR6T engines punching over a 1000Hp its unbelievable what has been done of late with this engine, yet someone does some R&D to get some good power with standard injectors and they are lepers.Give the blokes some credit for having a good go and doing what no one else has done to date!! If it does come down to dollars and cents and you are one that have spent twice as much and have the sh!ts on, then get over it as it wont be the last time you part with some money only to find out 6 months later you could get the same thing for ½ the price.I personally take my hat off to these blokes for a few reasons, those being they had the enthusiasm to try this system to start with and secondly to face the masses and disbelievers and post the results then take all the ridicule and still keep focused.Well done Macka, Pretzel and Nick keep up the good work, R&D and stick it up the lot of them. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 20/12/04 06:38 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 06:38 AM jteale said: Dynowog said: ktford dont think he was going at you!the point is he has been telling the truth and it seems the masses that have been spending up big must be feeling like fools and not liking it so they try to make themselves feel les silly by trying to disprove what deep down inside they know to be true!if it makes people feel better ill charge double and split the diference with the site!no they wouildnot like that either?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dynowog,I think the only point is this, car with Intercooler and EMS is claiming 300-330rwkw with everything else stock ... yet now with a MPH figure probably suggesting something like 260rwkw (which is what I would expect) there are still claims it is making over 300 ... I am sure your solution is a great cost effective choice ... if a little untried and tested, but a worthy choice none the less ... I think the suggestion that if somebody chooses another path (other than yours) which may or may not cost more is a fool ... is a little patronising ... sometimes you are your own worst enemy ... just keep to the facts DW.... are you for real? pls tell me then why its so hard for so many members to swallow it then? (accept that there is more than 1 way to skin a cat?) just giving back a small portion of what we have received? as to facts the truth often offends so im not patronising! Cheers, Jason.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 20/12/04 06:47 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 06:47 AM F6_Tornado said: The way I read it all these guyz (macka Pretzel and dynowog) have tried to convey throughout the whole ugly topic was the fact that you can get 300+rwkws from standard injectors which was unheard of before now and against all common previous practice. The fact that its cost efficient is obvious and a real benefit no doubt but not the real issue at all.What people must understand is R&D is what this thread is all about and 5 years ago if I told you that ford would be kicking V8 ass’s with a 6 cylinder you would have laughed at me…In fact if I had of said Ford would release a “Turbo” 6 you would have laughed!!! Look around the internet now some XR6T engines punching over a 1000Hp its unbelievable what has been done of late with this engine, yet someone does some R&D to get some good power with standard injectors and they are lepers.Give the blokes some credit for having a good go and doing what no one else has done to date!! If it does come down to dollars and cents and you are one that have spent twice as much and have the sh!ts on, then get over it as it wont be the last time you part with some money only to find out 6 months later you could get the same thing for ½ the price.I personally take my hat off to these blokes for a few reasons, those being they had the enthusiasm to try this system to start with and secondly to face the masses and disbelievers and post the results then take all the ridicule and still keep focused.Well done Macka, Pretzel and Nick keep up the good work, R&D and stick it up the lot of them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thanks f6 good to know that my time here isn't totally wasted! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jteale Guests Posted 20/12/04 07:19 AM Share Posted 20/12/04 07:19 AM Dynowog said: DW.... are you for real? pls tell me then why its so hard for so many members to swallow it then? (accept that there is more than 1 way to skin a cat?) just giving back a small portion of what we have received? as to facts the truth often offends so im not patronising! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Dynowog,I am real, yep ... I am just wondering what facts I am swallowing, I see nothing that suggests the car in question has over 300rwkw, I never slammed you today or ever ... yet you said and I quote: Quote the point is he has been telling the truth and it seems the masses that have been spending up big must be feeling like fools and not liking it so they try to make themselves feel les silly by trying to disprove what deep down inside they know to be true!I am part of the "masses" and I hardly think I am a "fool" for not choosing your magical offering, I simply stated ease back on the attacks on us simple "masses" as yet I am not seeing any back up of the figures quoted... just post technical findings, I enjoy it as do many others If you read my post I am trying to be constructive not critisize ... I like to see your options just lay off the insults BTW ... Skin as many cats as you like ... the more the better :lol: Cheers, Jason. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/14673-ems-results/page/12/#findComment-200779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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