Ba Xr8 Flash Tuner Results

[Guest hsveater]

  xrdreaming said:

So the stalling fault was in the parameter settings of the ECU then and not being caused by the unichip?

Is the overboost something that stands out like dogs balls that Ford would know about but won't fix, or do you believe it is something they genuinely be overlooking as they say they have no fix yet and it has been months.

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xrdreaming,

Why the such a keen interest in the overboost fault???

Does your BRITISH BUTLER APS Phase III have an drivability issue all of a sudden?

Cold weather shows the unadjustability of interceptors does'nt it?

I'm not saying everyone has my driveability issues with APS kits BUT there are many that do and yes I've done 30,000 km's in mine now

Yes APS Phase III XR6T's go hard but their nothing flash below 3000rpm where you use em most on the street!

Congratulations Martin Donon for raising the bar to the top level in tuning the BA Fords.

I am sure you will have drag strip, top speed and quarter mile timeslips to depress Peter and all the APS cheersquad soon!

[3rdTurbo]

  Street Tuner said:

  aps said:

Each and every statement you made above was completely incorrect - As you have been around as a journalist for a while, you knew that the facts you presented above were incorrect.

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Ok then lets get into the facts -

Correct me -

1) How does a piggyback control idle speed?

2) How does a piggyback change closed loop?

3) Trans settings with a piggyback?

4) What about error status?

I await your answers with interest.

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These q's whilst technically interesting (and I am interested in the results) does not answer the position put fwd by APS. APS alleged that your comments are incorrect, please respond to this accordingly.

Stop dancing around the issue.

[aps]

  hsveater said:

I'm not saying everyone has my driveability issues with APS kits BUT there are many that do and yes I've done 30,000 km's in mine now

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hsveater why don't you pm me or state on this forum who sold and installed the APS Phase III system on your T, othewr wise I say you're an opposition stooge just trying to libel APS for your own or other's personal benefit.

If I'm wrong I'm happy to make a public apology.

Thanks

Peter

[Street Tuner]

  3rdTurbo said:

APS alleged that your comments are incorrect, please respond to this accordingly.

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I believe my comments are 100% correct.

If I accuse someone of being a liar, then I back it up with fact...

Im still waiting......

Edited 21/12/04 01:28 AM by Street Tuner

[geea]

  hsveater said:

  xrdreaming said:

So the stalling fault was in the parameter settings of the ECU then and not being caused by the unichip?

Is the overboost something that stands out like dogs balls that Ford would know about but won't fix, or do you believe it is something they genuinely be overlooking as they say they have no fix yet and it has been months.

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xrdreaming,

Why the such a keen interest in the overboost fault???

Does your BRITISH BUTLER APS Phase III have an drivability issue all of a sudden?

Cold weather shows the unadjustability of interceptors does'nt it?

I'm not saying everyone has my driveability issues with APS kits BUT there are many that do and yes I've done 30,000 km's in mine now

Yes APS Phase III XR6T's go hard but their nothing flash below 3000rpm where you use em most on the street!

Congratulations Martin Donon for raising the bar to the top level in tuning the BA Fords.

I am sure you will have drag strip, top speed and quarter mile timeslips to depress Peter and all the APS cheersquad soon!

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hsveater why are you continually having ago at anyone that doesn't give full support to the edit. You're the only owner of an APS phaseIII that I know of who isn't happy with it. Dean stated he was 100% happy with his phaseIII and had no issues so why try to turn it around and imply that he has over boost issues.

I have no doubt that the edit "will be" a good addition to the options available. This doesn't mean that the current options are no good. Deans and my car both run 11's and after having driven both I would say they are 2 of the best cars I have driven.

Everyone knows who I am and everyone kows who Dean is, who are you. I have no doubts that if you have a phaseIII Peter would be doing everything he can to resolve any issues you might have.

Its great to be excited about new products but there is no need to critisize the happy owners of older proven prioducts.

Geea.

[Guest]

now that martin has clarified it he has a point!

but in the first post he did say

I mean really only being able to tune at full throttle.

dw.... I know your upset but you know this aint true

No control of idle, closed loop,

dw....not entirely corect speed maybe but mixtures signals can be bent

trans, or error status...what a waste of time.

dw .... sorry aps he is right a far as I know with this

martin I think you could be great or greater if you dont take things as personal atacks all the time! you need to realise there are more than a few ways to acheive acceptable results you have in the tips of your fingers posobly the best tunning tool available but you choose to use it as an over the counter plug and play!

tell me honestly how many plug n play chips have you bagged in the past?

you know as well as I do you cant tune 1st up from 800 ks away you need 1 on 1 for corect results!

pls take this as advice and not a bagging/atack

maybe im not qualified to give this advice but hey just trying to help?

[Street Tuner]

  Dynowog said:

now that martin has clarified it he has a point!

but in the first post he did say

I mean really only being able to tune at full throttle.

Under a throttle position of 50% the factory PCM corrects the mixture to a 'stoich' AFR of 14.7:1. It doesn't matter what signals you bend, this remains the case...unless you push the system so far out of range that it reverts to open loop (over 20% fuel trim). This will then adversely affect transient and full throttle fuel cells, as they all share information amongst each other with the standard adaptive learn map.

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dw....not entirely corect speed maybe but mixtures signals can be bent

Refer above response

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martin I think you could be great or greater if you dont take things as personal atacks all the time! you need to realise there are more than a few ways to acheive acceptable results you have in the tips of your fingers posobly the best tunning tool available but you choose to use it as an over the counter plug and play!

That isnt entirely true. I am in Melbourne today custom tuning cars.

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you know as well as I do you cant tune 1st up from 800 ks away you need 1 on 1 for corect results!

You can if you tune conservatively. This is the same technique the factory uses to calibrate vehicles.

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pls take this as advice and not a bagging/atack

maybe im not qualified to give this advice but hey just trying to help?

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No problems dw. Happy to see any positive input here

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  aps said:

  hsveater said:

I'm not saying everyone has my driveability issues with APS kits BUT there are many that do and yes I've done 30,000 km's in mine now

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hsveater why don't you pm me or state on this forum who sold and installed the APS Phase III system on your T, othewr wise I say you're an opposition stooge just trying to libel APS for your own or other's personal benefit.

If I'm wrong I'm happy to make a public apology.

Thanks

Peter

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hsveater still no pm from you (though you're always quick to post and bag APS on this forum, seems like you've gone very quiet now) or better still if you genuinely have/own a T with a Phase III system and you believe that you have a genuine technical problem then please phone me on 03 9761 7244.

I'm here waiting for your phone call and ready and able to assist you if you're are a genuine Phase III customer.................which I believe that YOU ARE NOT.

Waiting for your pm or phone call so that I can verify you are a REAL APS customer, not an opposition STOOGE.

Thanks

Peter

[3rdTurbo]

  Dynowog said:

now that martin has clarified it he has a point!

but in the first post he did say

I mean really only being able to tune at full throttle.

dw.... I know your upset but you know this aint true

No control of idle, closed loop,

dw....not entirely corect speed maybe but mixtures signals can be bent

trans, or error status...what a waste of time.

dw .... sorry aps he is right a far as I know with this

martin I think you could be great or greater if you dont take things as personal atacks all the time! you need to realise there are more than a few ways to acheive acceptable results you have in the tips of your fingers posobly the best tunning tool available but you choose to use it as an over the counter plug and play!

tell me honestly how many plug n play chips have you bagged in the past?

you know as well as I do you cant tune 1st up from 800 ks away you need 1 on 1 for corect results!

pls take this as advice and not a bagging/atack

maybe im not qualified to give this advice but hey just trying to help?

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Dynowog - f good advice! I have no doubt that Street Tuner has the experience and is a switched on guy. I'm in no way affiliated with the auto industry. I am an enthusiast who also enjoys a good fair debate.

Street Tuner - I honestly think you are doing your product and yourself no favours by shooting from the hip. I think you risk "cornering yourself" into a position you may not ordinarily agree with by kicking off a debate on the detriments of a piggyback ECU. I don't know why you just can't just let some remarks go through to the keeper, you have the EDIT out there now in the markertplace - continue to report back the results and your technical views. FACTS are what wins a debate, not talking down on others.

I drafted these comments as I am really confused as to what you are trying to prove with your attacks. Just think about how do you want your prospective customers to judge your product?

I'm prepared to give the EDIT a go sometime in the future, and if the professionalism is lacking from a supplying party, I would be unlikely to do any business with them. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks way, but I am happy to stand corrected.

[Street Tuner]

Im still waiting George....

Back up your name calling with some facts now....or, as I suggested in my previous post, dont you have any?

Edited 21/12/04 02:18 AM by Street Tuner