Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 8m 5d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 12/04/03 02:36 AM Share Posted 12/04/03 02:36 AM Ex-Rexer> That is a spot on summation - all the speculation is just that, speculation, and means sweet FA. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-17034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 22y 3m 21d Location: Toowoomba Posted 12/04/03 12:02 PM Share Posted 12/04/03 12:02 PM It goes to show what good value for money you are getting buying a T, compared to a GTS or any HSV. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-17104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 5m 29d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 13/04/03 02:03 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 02:03 AM Different dynos will give different figures, as will different times of the day on the same dyno. There are also different ways of setting up a dyno (ie shootout mode) that can be used to inflate (or deflate) kw figures. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-17146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwish Member 65 Member For: 22y 4m 2d Location: Greystanes Posted 13/04/03 11:24 AM Share Posted 13/04/03 11:24 AM Power loss is static, once you have lost it there is no extra loss when mods are done, eg.S15 is 147kw Fly and 115Rwkwso the loss is 32kw.So when My s15 had 170rwkw Flywheel equals 202kw.And if it made 200Rwkw it would be 232kw. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-17249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBT56 Mal Wood Automotive Member 457 Member For: 22y 7m 8d Gender: Male Posted 13/04/03 08:26 PM Share Posted 13/04/03 08:26 PM Uwish said: Power loss is static, once you have lost it there is no extra loss when mods are done, eg.S15 is 147kw Fly and 115Rwkwso the loss is 32kw.So when My s15 had 170rwkw Flywheel equals 202kw.And if it made 200Rwkw it would be 232kw.I would have said power loss is closer to a percentage. Granted, there is the initial dead loss at a certain speed, and it probably ramps down a little after that, but there is no way it is a fixed number. As the drivetrain is called upon to transmit more power, it will generate more heat. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-17266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uwish Member 65 Member For: 22y 4m 2d Location: Greystanes Posted 14/04/03 04:36 AM Share Posted 14/04/03 04:36 AM more heat...Well there would need to be a huge amount of heat through the gearbox, Tailshaft and diff, to take out any more power.There have been numerous arguements on other forumsabout the power percentage loss.Search Pf and FFF for these topics. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-17331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest s13viper Guests Posted 27/04/03 01:24 PM Share Posted 27/04/03 01:24 PM driveline loss is a percentage! my silvia had 130kw at the fly std and 98rwkw, it now has 185rwkw and 246kw @ the fly approx, this equates to about a 25% driveline loss, and it was this way throughout the project.ona side note, I weigh about 1300kg all up so ill give neone a run, lol but seriosuly driveline loss isa percentage can it can be changed by different clutch, flywheels, gearbox internals, etc, etc, but generally isa constant Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-19267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercturbo Member 696 Member For: 22y 2m 28d Location: Geelong Posted 28/04/03 03:31 AM Share Posted 28/04/03 03:31 AM I'm no mechanic, but It seems you've increased you're flywheel output by around 90%. I would put my money on any xr6t that had the same percentage power increase any day of the week!! This would give it around 440 flywheel I think, that would be a fair race, unfortunately, most new car owner's like to keep their 3 year warranty Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-19327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mals BA XR6T Member 381 Member For: 22y 6m 12d Location: Sydney Posted 28/04/03 04:06 AM Share Posted 28/04/03 04:06 AM s13viper said: driveline loss is a percentage! my silvia had 130kw at the fly std and 98rwkw, it now has 185rwkw and 246kw @ the fly approx, this equates to about a 25% driveline loss, and it was this way throughout the project.ona side note, I weigh about 1300kg all up so ill give neone a run, lol but seriosuly driveline loss isa percentage can it can be changed by different clutch, flywheels, gearbox internals, etc, etc, but generally isa constant Are you saying that you removed the engine to measure the 130fwkW, and then ran the car on a chassis Dyno and measured 98rwkW. Then you finished a few mods, removed the engine again and measured 246fwkW, then put it all back in and measured 185rwkW?Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were reading the std kW from the owners manual, then put your car on a Dyno, recorded that increase, completed the mods, put your car back on the Dyno and worked the 25% backwards!So in other words you are saying it's 246fwkW cause you can use a calculator?I'm just trying to establish facts here Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-19333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest s13viper Guests Posted 28/04/03 04:38 AM Share Posted 28/04/03 04:38 AM no no, by the way its a RWD car so its rwkw, lol, what im saying is the std factory output is 130kw @ the flywheel, I had it dynoed b4 anymods and it spat out 98rwkw, when now it makes 185rwkw after the mods, and this was calculated out to be 246kw @ the flywheel, there is a way to do that when they pull the engine out it just dosen't get done very often, almost a constant 25% loss througout the project! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/1438-300kw-gts/page/2/#findComment-19339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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