Cobra potty trained Lifetime Members 1,938 Member For: 21y 9m 28d Gender: Male Posted 30/11/04 11:22 PM Share Posted 30/11/04 11:22 PM after booting an F6 around for awhile (with 95km on the clock) .... my guess is that it could cover the 1/4 in the mid 13s - and that's because it is a manual0-100 in the mid 5s (another guess)the F6 is definitely 0.5 secs faster than the XRT ... reminds me of my late ute when it was phase 1.5 (aps)270kw 550Nm b#llsh*t !!! protecting the GTs again hey Henry ?? .... a lot under the F6 bonnet than that !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wrx365 Guests Posted 01/12/04 06:11 AM Share Posted 01/12/04 06:11 AM I disagree, the 80-120kmph tests were conducted in each gear (with the obvious exceptions of 1st and reverse!) this would indicate different rev ranges and give a good indication of which engine will pull ahead despite being out of its sweet spot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would like to see acceleration figures for other increments and not only for 80-110km/h before drawing too many conclusions. The only fair way is to do standing start acceleration figures (not the quarter mile times which dependent upon launch as well). Here the V8s are much stronger than the F6.Quote: 270kw 550Nm b#llsh*t !!! protecting the GTs again hey Henry ?? .... a lot under the F6 bonnet than that !!!!I had thought the same thing before I had driven the cars. Since I have found the GT the quicker car. People seem to forget that two magazines have independently tested the cars and found the F6 slower than the V8s in both road tests.Also it seems people are driving the manual F6 and then comparing it to the Auto GT. If you get a chance drive the manual GT, it is now a much better and faster car with the 6 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 4m 13d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 01/12/04 11:54 PM Share Posted 01/12/04 11:54 PM I disagree, the 80-120kmph tests were conducted in each gear (with the obvious exceptions of 1st and reverse!) this would indicate different rev ranges and give a good indication of which engine will pull ahead despite being out of its sweet spot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would like to see acceleration figures for other increments and not only for 80-110km/h before drawing too many conclusions. The only fair way is to do standing start acceleration figures (not the quarter mile times which dependent upon launch as well). Here the V8s are much stronger than the F6.Quote: 270kw 550Nm b#llsh*t !!! protecting the GTs again hey Henry ?? .... a lot under the F6 bonnet than that !!!!I had thought the same thing before I had driven the cars. Since I have found the GT the quicker car. People seem to forget that two magazines have independently tested the cars and found the F6 slower than the V8s in both road tests.Also it seems people are driving the manual F6 and then comparing it to the Auto GT. If you get a chance drive the manual GT, it is now a much better and faster car with the 6 speed.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>FARRRK MEEE - the goose man has a brother!!! :ladysman: :violin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wrx365 Guests Posted 02/12/04 05:48 AM Share Posted 02/12/04 05:48 AM Who is goose man? At least its the funniest thing you have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 3m 25d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 07/12/04 11:35 AM Share Posted 07/12/04 11:35 AM I disagree, the 80-120kmph tests were conducted in each gear (with the obvious exceptions of 1st and reverse!) this would indicate different rev ranges and give a good indication of which engine will pull ahead despite being out of its sweet spot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I would like to see acceleration figures for other increments and not only for 80-110km/h before drawing too many conclusions. The only fair way is to do standing start acceleration figures (not the quarter mile times which dependent upon launch as well). Here the V8s are much stronger than the F6.Quote: 270kw 550Nm b#llsh*t !!! protecting the GTs again hey Henry ?? .... a lot under the F6 bonnet than that !!!!I had thought the same thing before I had driven the cars. Since I have found the GT the quicker car. People seem to forget that two magazines have independently tested the cars and found the F6 slower than the V8s in both road tests.Also it seems people are driving the manual F6 and then comparing it to the Auto GT. If you get a chance drive the manual GT, it is now a much better and faster car with the 6 speed.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>I did for 10 klm and then took the Typhoon, you made your choice and went for the GT we will now have to see what the future unfolds, every GT owner who has driven my Typhoon reckons "No Contest" for a standard car comparo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargerMal Member 15 Member For: 20y 2m 16d Posted 07/12/04 11:16 PM Share Posted 07/12/04 11:16 PM After the recent article in The Age newspaper, I rang FPV here in Melbourne asking if they could quote some performance stats, as the article said very little other than quoted Nm figs and KW figs... The guy at the other end stated it was Ford Aust. policy NOT to quote figures, and that I should ring Wheels Magazine and see if they'd tested it!!Well he obviously knew they had...as when I did I got a cadet journo on the line who happily informed me they'd just done the Calder test, and on a greasy track they only got a 14.6 out of it...So me (being the stirrer I am!) rang FPV back and told them this...man were they unhappy!!! ................but the guy there still said they couldn't quote any of their own figures...but that FPV would def. be hurting when that stuff was published!so there ya go...even in the face of bad publicity they won't quote times or speeds... I also thought it was interesting also that Motor magazine got a 14.1(?) out of it...a much more realistic apparaisal I think.... Another point worth considering is that the spread of torque the F6 generates is certain to give the impression of it being quicker than it really is....the comment made in Wheels about an "avalanche of power that keeps coming" is a good summary of what I'm trying to explain...some of you would be aware that this is characteristic of Turbo cars...as opposed to the V8 "wall of torque"...PERHAPS this is why people are assuming it's faster than it really is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargerMal Member 15 Member For: 20y 2m 16d Posted 07/12/04 11:51 PM Share Posted 07/12/04 11:51 PM Old habits die hard and the GT and the Clubie need to Rev hard to go hard wear as the f6 wants to take another gear early and pull. The above results show that, but it’s a total new ball game and people need to take time to get a handle on how to make the torque work for you and not the rev’s.I couldn't edit my previous post..but I couldn't agree more with this point...it is a completely different style of driving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 3m 27d Location: Sydney Posted 08/12/04 12:14 AM Author Share Posted 08/12/04 12:14 AM FARRRK MEEE - the goose man has a brother!!! :pics:So anyone who reads the two independant mag reviews and doesn't agree with you must be related to me....Life is fun for the simple thinking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargerMal Member 15 Member For: 20y 2m 16d Posted 08/12/04 12:20 AM Share Posted 08/12/04 12:20 AM I thought it might go better than reported. At least Wheels teast was readable. It doesnt go any better really thna the Charger. Havent we come a long way.....You have to remember that the F6 is carrying 300 kg more than a Charger ringing wet...(that's two VERY LARGE adults, )ANDin additon you're running 17 or 18" wheels instead of 14's, which in effect means the gear ratio on the F6 would be reduced to an equivalent of 2.9's on the Charger running 14's (the E49 ran 3.5's btw) ...if that makes sense...I reckon a 49 would run a mid 15 with 17 " wheels!and lastly you have to consider the torque and how easy it is to get to the pavement...there was a comment made that Wheels testers had no idea what they were doing...I don't doubt that...but so will most of the "Joe averages" who buy this car because they think it's the quickest thing since sliced bread.....IMHO I see the F6 as a real "drivers car", and it will need a good driver to get the best out of it......which at the moment loks to be about a 14 flat....Also, the E49 was a purpose built Muscle car, not a car trying to meet a market expectation for "family bob and two kiddies"and lastly perhaps this just re-enforces how damn good the E49 spec motor was ......now where did I put my brakes???? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 4m 13d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 08/12/04 12:55 AM Share Posted 08/12/04 12:55 AM FARRRK MEEE - the goose man has a brother!!! :o<{POST_SNAPBACK}>So anyone who reads the two independant mag reviews and doesn't agree with you must be related to me....Life is fun for the simple thinking.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nah Steve you've missed the point, as usual. My reference was simply to do with wrx365's continual circle work - much the same way a debate with you evolves.I'm quite happy to hear different points of view and I certainly don't want everyone agreeing with me all the time - just when I'm right. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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