Capa "black Oak Edit"

[jetute]

  Street Tuner said:

  profrat said:

Ok. I have a standard Manual Turbo that sometimes suffers overboost cut out, (always at a most inconvenient time.) :( I can't believe no one else has asked this question: What will the standard tunes do for me? Specifically, what parameters are changed? What is the difference between the 3 stock 'tunes' that come with it?

How much increase in boost will they set?

The programs that we have been working on so far are two for outright performance, and one special feature program. Let me explain....

PROGRAM 1: The first performance program raises boost pressure to a consistent 8psi. It also changes the variable camshaft timing to maximise torque production at low rpm. Fuel mixtures are left deliberately on the rich side of best power, and the ignition timing setting is conservative. Rev limits, trans shift rpm etc is left stock. Trans shift pressure and torque reduction is set to maintain reliable component operation under high duress conditions. Overboost cut strategy will only ever trigger if something is genuinely wrong. If you want to drive flat out all day in the NT, then this program is for you.

PROGRAM 2: The second performance program pushes the fuel system to the limit of the factory injectors, commanding over 10psi of boost pressure low in the rpm and then tapering off to 9psi towards the rev limiter....which itself is raised 150rpm, and changed from hard cut to soft cut. Camshaft, fuel, and ignition timing strategies are more aggressive, auto shift is markedly firmer, overboost cut is set well out the way, and the shift points are higher. Its a quarter mile program, and designed to generate the best acceleration times from your car without compromising reliability.

PROGRAM 3: Special feature programming is unique to each customer, and can incorporate a proper valet mode function with a 40km/h speed/rev limiter, and complete protection for your vehicle. Another could be a super-low boost mode for when the kids have a drive. Use your imagination here!

Just a sample of what we have been doing so far...and I hope it answers your questions.

street tuner... are these off the shelf tunes.... meaning the same package for every customer?

what happens if you have injectors and other mods??

[Mals BA XR6T]

Does anyone know who will be doing the tunes in Sydney?

Thanks, Mal

[geea]

  fordboy1981 said:

he's said it at least one hundred times in the thread about Pretzel's BA with the EMS which he fitted. he has fitted an EMS, CAI and a bigger intercooler to that car and NOTHING ELSE, do you understand that, NOTHING, NARDA, ZIP...S-T-O-C-K injectors; this car has made 337rwkws.

Dave.

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Dave Pretzels car has a dyno sheet that says it has 337rwkw's. At this stage that's all it is a piece of paper.

The dyno is under question after my cars run and all the information to date says its not possible. Both APS and HPF say that its wrong. I have a dyno sheet which says my car has 392rwkw's which is more than 60rwkw's over what it actually has.

APS have offered to run the car on their dyno, this will answer alot of questions another way is the 1/4 mile.

Its unfortunate but when huge claims are made they need to be backed up. Until they are they are just claims.

Geea.

[JB]

  Street Tuner said:

I think we need to clarify a few points here regarding the SCT Advantage product, and the way it is being handled by CAPA. Its all pretty straightforward.

1) If you purchase the unit from your local distributor, the $1695 retail price includes the dyno tuning to suit your combination. There is no hidden extra cost with this system.

2) If you purchase direct from CAPA and have the XCalibrator (flash tool) loaded with the CAPA modified programs, then having your car subsequently dyno tuned will cost an additional fee, much like it does with a piggyback system

3) Training for various dealers in taking place as we speak

4) If you need to take your car to the dealer, then reflash the factory tune. It is really very simple, and takes less than 2 minutes, which is why you, as the customer, retains the XCalibrator.

5) If by some accident or memory slip your dealer reflashes your stock computer with a modified program in it, then your SCT Advantage dealer will replace your tune free of charge. Since this is just the press of a couple of buttons on the XCalibrator, its no problem! ie. the modified programs CANNOT be lost like this.

6) The SCT Advantage software is extremely sohpisticated, and can calibrate quite literally hundreds of tables in the factory management system...and if there is something additional you require that for some reason isn't in the software, then we can add it for you. Indeed the control over the turbo diesel processor that the software has is quite remarkable, and entirely comprehensive...which is why an Advantage tuned 7.3 turbo diesel F series has recorded a 13.0 1/4 mile with just the tune and an exhaust.

7) If you wish to retain a piggyback computer then that is fine, however I do believe CAPA will be offering trade in money on the strap on style computers to sweeten the deal

Get in line, Im doing my first customer tune late this week. Your state dealers will follow as soon as their training is complete.

Most of all though. Have fun!

Thankyou for clarifying Tuna, this was my main gripe as the information flow from your own people has been different to what you have indicated.

It sounds great, but I was told by a guy at the Capa stand on the weekend once the box downloads the tune to the pcm, the box no longer holds that tune as it is in the cars pcm. I asked this question and clarified twice in the one conversation.

Can you also advise where we stand with T's already modded, I.e I have injectors hence will not be able to run the standard tune. I was told I would need a base tune if I wanted a close to stock tune (for servicing etc), and my performance one ontop. Any tunes that I wanted specifically done for my T would be custom tunes hence were on top of the $1695. I asked whether the base tunes it came with would be useless for me, and I was told yes, I would have to go down the custom tune path.

Can you further clarify this information, it would be much appreciated, as well as indicating a tuner besides Herrod in melb?

[Eugene]

  fordboy1981 said:

  Eugene said:

  fordboy1981 said:

  xrturb said:

if you lose your tune you just have to reflash it

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exactly! they supply you with the unit so you can reflash the pcm yourself!

besides, you shouldn't need bigger injectors with an edit. According to nick you can get up to 330rwkws from the standard injectors, so unless you want serious power, there shouldn't be a problem...

Dave.

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And you plan on carrying the unit around with you, so the moment you drive out of the dealership you can flash it?

Where has nick (I take it you mean dynowog) said that std injectors are goodfor 330rwkw?

It goes against info put up by street tuner in other threads relating to the Edit, injectors are still a limit, along with other things. and I dont think it will be 330rwkw either, but I am happy to be proven wrong by Nick or Street tuner.

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he's said it at least one hundred times in the thread about Pretzel's BA with the EMS which he fitted. he has fitted an EMS, CAI and a bigger intercooler to that car and NOTHING ELSE, do you understand that, NOTHING, NARDA, ZIP...S-T-O-C-K injectors; this car has made 337rwkws.

Dave.

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Dave (Dude),

It seems you are alittle confused, this is the Edit thread, where grown ups are talking about the edit, not EMS, just because Nick has a car with intercooler, CAI and EMS getting 337+ rwkw, doesnt mean the Edit will make the same power on stock injectors.

Street tuner has said many times that the injectors are a power limiting item, even in the post you quoted he says that, do you not think if the edit could make 330rwkw with standard injectors they would not have let us know about 3 months ago, when the edit was only two weeks away.

Street tuner:

A question if I may, can the Turbo falcon be tuned with the Edit, on stock injectors, exhaust, fuel pump, etc be made to get 337rwkw?

Dave (Dude) seems to think so, I am not so sure.

[profrat]

Many thanks Street Tuner. Just the sort of things and info I was hoping for.

Just a cuppla things:

You mention the shifting stategies for the Auto's. Is there a specific tune for the manuals?

Would the use of the second program mandate the upgrading of the valve springs? Does this tune also 'change the variable camshaft timing to maximise torque production at low rpm.' as stated for the first tune?

Would the first tune give me worse fuel economy being 'deliberatly left on the rich side of max power". Which tune would give me the best economy on highway driving?

Could my 'friendly' Ford dealer detect the non standard program in the computer?

thanks

[ms700]

Another question for Street Tuner,

As I understand it, you can have 4 programs;

1) Standard tune

2) Slightly modded tune

3) A 400mtr tune (put simply)

4) A Valet parker tune?

So im guessing whatever specs, or "tune's" you want, the Flash box will/can be built to whatever specs you want?

[Street Tuner]

If your car already has a 'Phase' or a 'Stage' kit on it, then dont fear. One of the things we will be doing is tuning cars with all of the most common aftermarket kits in place so that we can place them into our tuning database. Indeed most of the kit developers will be using our technology to enhance the performance of their own product. Take this as fact.

In the meantime the directive to our dealers will be that they tune your car for the same price regardless of the modifications that have been carried out. I.e. if you have 968 injectors or a larger wastegate, then we will have the dealer in your area tune the system to suit. Dont look upon having modifications as a problem to us. Its all quite easy to deal with.

There will be several dealers in Melbourne. I wont release any names at this stage, as they are still in the throes of signing distribution contracts. You will be surprised though who some of the big names really are!

[jetute]

  Street Tuner said:

If your car already has a 'Phase' or a 'Stage' kit on it, then dont fear. One of the things we will be doing is tuning cars with all of the most common aftermarket kits in place so that we can place them into our tuning database. Indeed most of the kit developers will be using our technology to enhance the performance of their own product. Take this as fact.

In the meantime the directive to our dealers will be that they tune your car for the same price regardless of the modifications that have been carried out. I.e. if you have 968 injectors or a larger wastegate, then we will have the dealer in your area tune the system to suit. Dont look upon having modifications as a problem to us. Its all quite easy to deal with.

There will be several dealers in Melbourne. I wont release any names at this stage, as they are still in the throes of signing distribution contracts. You will be surprised though who some of the big names really are!

The second paragraph has cleared a lot of things up

[Street Tuner]

MS700, the XCalibrator (flash box) is a device that holds the software. It is up to your tuner to change the factory settings so that each program matches your requirement. Should you want one of the programs changed at some stage that's possible too. You arent just locked in to the original tune parameters.