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[GlennAUII]

I've not looked at a Futura.   

Do they have better options as standard.  Over an XR6 N/A

macka

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hmm... not really... I think they've got side airbags...

their cheaper but! :lol:

Same engine as far as I know... would look awesome! I'm seeing it now.. Futura... blue pearl... dark tint... dumped... 18's... shaker.... and supercharger... SWEET RIDE

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You Guy's woud'nt think its RICE.

Then take the P^^^ss out of me and kick me off the forum, cause I don't own a xr6turbo anymore :lol:

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no way... not ever a car with those balls

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Then take the P^^^ss out of me and kick me off the forum, cause I don't own a xr6turbo anymore :lol:

Dynowog we'll talk soon before D/Day

macka

no but youd probibly need to start www.fordxr6s.com forums with this following you created?

yep anytime

[Lawsy]

BUT, what turbo's and cent' chargers do not do is give you INSTANT, and I mean absolutely instant 100% power at the flick of the throttle.

....although s/c's have come along especially since the release of the eaton's turbo charger technology has come along in leeps and bounds. as to no lag well that upto definition and its very posible to setup a turbo to boost from idle. (see fast 4's nov 94 red gem 10psi from 1200-6000 rpm by me) this is pre today's technology

Greater power gains are also to be made with a screw without as much modification (as in, less piping).

....manifold construction aint easy

Guess why everything 'competative' Pro stock and over use Chargers over turbos? (appart from a few buzz boxes and v6's). Cause there is power to be made with these suckers that nothing else can match.

....cause in the states if you win a race with a turd on your rollcage tommorow all the others get theirs with the rich ones croming theirs! they also use piss and dribble injection and magneto's should we use those too?

I wanna see one of these blowers on our boss and I6, I mean, I REALLY want to see this happen. It will be absolutely awesome watching an instant responce, near 1000hp I6 flogging the crap out of everything in the weight class.

....macka id like to see it to and im happy to help you acheive this

Pls, scew the Sob!!

now this is more like it did you read my other post?

im having fun again!    

WTF^^?

That sounded like something that would come from some random, at a pub, rather than an experienced tuner.

Physics in the end determines ultimate power. And I am here to tell you that top fuelers will never run turbos.

Big turbos will never be instant responce and lagless. Otherwise everyone would be running them. Give me one example of a 1000hp turbo engine (must be from a car, not a truck) that has no lag.

Positive displacement superchargers by definition displace a certain volume of air per revolution, all you have to to is turn it over and you have that volume of air pushed into the manifold.

If you are on light throttle at say, 4000 rpm (say, holding 4000rpm at about 80 clicks in second), the gate is open letting some of the air out. Soon as you plant it, the gate closes, and within a few milliseconds (The time for a solenoid to react really, plus there needs to be something like 10 revolutions after sealing before there is full pressure in the manifold) you have 100% boost. At 4000rpm, you get ~ 67 revolutions per second, that's 0.67 turns per millisecond. You looking at about 15ms untill 100% pressure is reached at that rpm.

Id like to see a turbo do that.

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WTF^^?

That sounded like something that would come from some random, at a pub, rather than an experienced tuner.

....how much actual enigne, s/c, turbo charger, tunning experiance do you have?

or are you just a keyboard warrior?

Physics in the end determines ultimate power. And I am here to tell you that top fuelers will never run turbos.

....they already have! look it up yourself!

Big turbos will never be instant responce and lagless. Otherwise everyone would be running them. Give me one example of a 1000hp turbo engine (must be from a car, not a truck) that has no lag.

....their a variable drive super charger you can have them boosting when you want and for how long you want

Positive displacement superchargers by definition displace a certain volume of air per revolution, all you have to to is turn it over and you have that volume of air pushed into the manifold.

.... your into physics you say isn't it air quality that counts? not to mention burning efficiency!

If you are on light throttle at say, 4000 rpm (say, holding 4000rpm at about 80 clicks in second), the gate is open letting some of the air out. Soon as you plant it, the gate closes, and within a few milliseconds (The time for a solenoid to react really, plus there needs to be something like 10 revolutions after sealing before there is full pressure in the manifold) you have 100% boost. At 4000rpm, you get ~ 67 revolutions per second, that's 0.67 turns per millisecond. You looking at about 15ms untill 100% pressure is reached at that rpm.

Id like to see a turbo do that.

... as you said earlier wtf you would have to have the worst turbo setup ever not to have instant response at 4000 rpm.

suggest you burry your head in your text books before you attack others this is a place were we post our thoughts and experiances not a place to up our ego's.

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[Blown BA]

WTF^^?

... as you said earlier wtf you would have to have the worst turbo setup ever not to have instant response at 4000 rpm.

suggest you burry your head in your text books before you attack others this is a place were we post our thoughts and experiances not a place to up our ego's.

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[Lawsy]

.......

You've totaly missed the point, id like to see, at 4000 rpm while NOT ACCELERATING the boost guage at full boost on a turbo. Its probably not going to be producing much more than 60% and the wastegate would be almost fully open....

It is never going to be instant from there with massive turbos. Just look at the video's of the 1000hp nizpro engine, you see him come down to somewhere around 4500rpm, then he plants it and there is CLEARLY a good half a second of spool up before anywhere near full boost is produced.

Yet with a charger, this is faster than you can blink....

Dude, cmon, you know this, stop arguing for arguments sake when your just arguing against your own knowledge and experience. I know every modified turbo car I have been in that there is never instant responce, there is always that slight delay. On the more powerfull of those, its much more noticable.

With big arse positive displacement blower engines, its instant, no matter what the boost is....

Dude, please, I'm not trying to make you look stupid, I'm not saying your stupid either, I respect you as a tuner, but you seem to be arguing against me for no real reason.....

This is meant to be about pumping macka up to stick one of these on our I6!!! Not to argue about the facts and fundamentals of forced induction.

And ps, use quote tags properly, its hard to determine where my post ends and your post stops.

Just edit it, and stick {quote} infront and {/quote} where you want to start your post. But use square brackets.

pps, I wasn't attacking you, and never intended to.

[macka'sxr6t]

Come on guy's,

Enough of the slanging match please :lol:

How would a S/C go on a BA SR model. Would they be a better buy than a futura or XL.

macka

[Lawsy]

To be honest, I really like the black behind in the lights of the XT (like the Ghia).

Lowered with nice rims and the XR body kit (no wing) would look absolutely awesome....

Not to mention when you plant it, the look on the other blokes face will be priceless....

So, I reckon. XT, premium sound, XR body kit (minus wing), leather (can you get leather on the XT?? Whatever....)

Goto herrods, get his set of 19's (damn they are hot rims) and his suspension kit.

So, that's about 40k right there (Just cause its an XT doesn't mean its cheap )....

Then you have tbe basis for a weapon and a half (yes, it might not be so much of a sleeper, but it will go hard)....

[GlennAUII]

Come on guy's,

Enough of the slanging match please  :lol:

How would a S/C go on a BA SR model.  Would they be a better buy than a futura or XL.

macka

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Go the sihlouette classic I reckon.. more sleeper :D

Looks tougher without a bodykit.. lower it and put fat 19" avdanti chiles on it or zenetti fusions.. would look awesome.

they get the sports cloth, 6 stacker, 16's, rear elec windows, suspension I think, cruise control and rex dvd system

[CSV_LS1]

There was an EL XR6 that was featured in Street Machine around 1 year ago that had a twin screw supercharger. It sat on an adapter beside the engine and piping going to an air to intercooler (previously had the vortech water to air aftercooler but found the air to air to be more efficient) and was making power in the low 400rwkw area I believe. I'll try and find the article to get the specifics.

This car was from WA if I remember correctly.