Xr6 Fog Lights

[AMoffat]

Turbo6 man

You seem to mistake obnoxiousness for intelligence.

What Mercury has said is an expanded version of my point. The difference between high and low beam takes time for the iris of the eye to accommodate (which is the correct word to describe what your eyes are doing). If you are using high beam/driving lights in an environment where your are forced to then do without them your are momentarily blinded while your eyes adjust.

Plus you are wasting energy and time concentrating on 'dipping' your lights.

Have I done an advanced riding and driving course?

Yes two of each over a twenty year period.

[Turbo6man]

Turbo6 man

You seem to mistake obnoxiousness for intelligence.

What Mercury has said is an expanded version of my point. The difference between high and low beam takes time for the iris of the eye to accommodate (which is the correct word to describe what your eyes are doing). If you are using high beam/driving lights in an environment where your are forced to then do without them your are momentarily blinded while your eyes adjust.

Plus you are wasting energy and time concentrating on 'dipping' your lights.

Have I done an advanced riding and driving course?

Yes two of each over a twenty year period.

Heheheheh ... it was NO mistake! I am quite adept at achieving both, sometimes simultaneously.

As for the point about momentary blindness - put simply, I would rather have less than perfect vision momentarily, than to have hopelessly inadequate vision 100% of the time.

It's time you took a defensive or advanced driving or riding course with a reputable operator if the ones you have tried previously did not explain properly to you the absolute importance of having the best possible visibility at all times ie day and night. This is the VERY FIRST point I always make when teaching defensive driving (which I have done as an occupation).

I stand by my previous criticism of the post which supported the view that people should drive at dusk or even after dusk with just their parking lights on - this is not only illegal but it is unsafe for the driver and all other road users nearby. Do some country miles and you'll notice how many stray animals are about at just this time of day. I drive with my driving lights on even at dusk, providing of course it is in an appropriate situation, because the lights will pick out the eyes of those cuddly, furry critters otherwise hidden in the shadows along the side of the road.

[AMoffat]

Do some country miles??

I do every day, one of the joys of not living in a metro area. Mercury's post spoke of low beam, or at least that;s the way I read it, not parkers.

Reputable instructors? Try Stay Upright for the bike courses and local operators (wheel skills) for the four wheeled ones.

[Turbo6man]

Mercury's post spoke of low beam, or at least that;s the way I read it, not parkers.

OK, so you have selective eyesight - and I have selective hearing, or so my wife says....

AMoffat, in all seriousness, if you go back and read the post you will in fact see that it does refer to driving at, and after, dusk with just parking lights. When you do read it properly and see that for yourself you might just see why it got my gander up ... if you still don't understand my point then I guess we just have to agree to disagree and I will continue to drive on in the same "safest manner" as always, and Mercury and his truckie friends may do their thing their way, and I just pray that you or I aren't the ones who come across them (possibly on the wrong side of the road) at dusk.

[Falchoon]

And then after having the pleasure of test driving another blokes XR6 at night, I'm driving around only to realise that the fog lights were on. I'd become what I hated! (they were already on..I didn't do it... I promise)

I did the same thing yesterday when driving home from the dealer after having my foglight fixed, the mechanic left them turned on and I didn't know until I arrived home. :o I was wondering though why suddenly all these right-lane-hogs were suddenly moving over...might have to turn them on more often.

[Guest JESMAL]

If you leave them turned on during the day, you'll notice some of the drivers on the opposite direction flashing their headlights at ya, even when your fogs are aimed low. It doesn't really bother me if it's the fogs on Commodores or Falcons (the modest-sized fog lights)...but when it comes to the WRXs or the ones fitted on SUVs or JEEPs...or even those Jap Raceboys with friggin modded white XENON globes...mannnnnnn....it's blinding (even during the day)!!!!

I have my fogs aimed low onto the ground so it's pretty nice to have them turned on during the night (normal driving), gives me greater visibility and does not blind oncoming traffic. But since I've heard that it's illegal to have them turned on during non-foggy days, I've vowed to keep it off. Don't want any cops to pull me over and ask me to pop open my bonnet, they'll get a shock of their life.

[Guest XR6T LISA]

Well 3 days after the delivery of my XR6T, it was 11pm and I had my 10 month old son hysterical. I ended up throwing both my kids in the car cos I knew this would get him to sleep, and I went for a drive into Newcastle. It was the first time the car had been driven at night since picking it up. I was pulled over by a cop and breathalised and he then asked me for my licence and advised that he was booking me for "Unlawful use of foglamps". Highly confused I questioned this and advised him I had only had the car for 3 days and I didn't even know that I had the things on. For that matter I didn't even know how to turn the damn things off. The police officer went and got a torch and shone it in the car to search for the foglamp switch. Upon finding this switch he commented on how pretty blue the interior of my car was and handed me a $74 fine. Before letting me go he asked me if there was any reason I had my children out after 11 o'clock at night. If I wasn't peeved enough about the $74 fine this topped it. Since when is a criminal offence to take kids out at a certain time of night? Surely the fact that I was unaware that I was using the foglamps and did not have the foggiest (pun intended!!) idea where to locate or how to switch them of only warrant a warning???

[Cam]

Is it illegal to use fog lamps in all states - or just some?

Ive never heard of it being illegal and I've been drving my current car wil fog on at night for years (and my wife drives her car with fog lights on too)

[bcl]

Lisa,

Sorry to hear about that. Same thing happened to my wife several years ago in her wrx. She was booked and had no idea how to turn them off.... they had been on for about 3 years whenever the headlights were on whilst I was driving, and I was never caught, but she was.

Brian

[Turbo6man]

Lisa> Yeah, it's pretty weak of the bloody coppers to book someone for this. It would be different if they were hooning around (see my earlier post), but if you are driving sensibly and otherwise doing the right thing I think it is just another example of the heavy handed approach that some HWP officers have. And I agree that it is absolutely an invasion of your rights and privacy for him to question having your children in the car with you regardless of the hour. Aren't you supposed to take your children to hospital if they need medical attention "after hours"? I think you were unlucky enough to meet a PIG.