Guest esky Guests Posted 25/03/03 03:32 AM Share Posted 25/03/03 03:32 AM I'm with you PSI140.Personally, I cannot see the need for another 2 auxillary injectors for what is a moderate increase in boost really. Surely the standard injectors will flow sufficient amounts to meet 10-11 psi? But then again, they would have tested this ????????????Oh well, it is all good times ahead that's for sure! :DGuys, from 5psi to 11psi is more then moderate, its double! Considering the stock injectors are at almost 100% duty cycle at stock boost, there is a need for either larger injectors or as TSI have done, extra injectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSI40L Member 175 Member For: 22y 1m 22d Posted 25/03/03 04:41 AM Share Posted 25/03/03 04:41 AM esky the car is running rich as is there is no need for extra injectors the air fuel ratio is 11.5 There is excess fuel already there we saw the results on the dyno so leaning it out abit to about 12.5 is still safe trust me so by upp ing the boost to about 10 psi with the standard injectors is fine and how do u know what the injectors flow anyway how can u make suc comments if u dont know .there r other ways to trick the computer anyway ...and how come with the unichip and pwerchip they dont use the extra injectors?? Or u trying to tell me the results we got on dyno day where BS. I think someone is brain washing u personally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest esky Guests Posted 25/03/03 09:19 AM Share Posted 25/03/03 09:19 AM esky the car is running rich as is there is no need for extra injectors the air fuel ratio is 11.5 There is excess fuel already there we saw the results on the dyno so leaning it out abit to about 12.5 is still safe trust me so by upp ing the boost to about 10 psi with the standard injectors is fine and how do u know what the injectors flow anyway how can u make suc comments if u dont know .there r other ways to trick the computer anyway ...and how come with the unichip and pwerchip they dont use the extra injectors?? Or u trying to tell me the results we got on dyno day where BS. I think someone is brain washing u personallyThis discussion basically comes down to can the stock injectors flow enough to adequately meet the needs at 11psi. If they can, then you would be right. I agree that at stock boost levels (5psi) the injectors are fine. Although when the boost is more than doubled, from the limited testing I've seen the stock injectors cannot flow enough effectively.Why not ring Herrod and APS and see what they have uncovered. I think you’ll find larger injectors going in their kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJF077 The Noble Leader Administrator 4,786 Member For: 22y 3m 28d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Australia Posted 25/03/03 09:43 AM Share Posted 25/03/03 09:43 AM They have updated their site againhttp://www.powerchipgroup.com/xr6turbo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBT56 Mal Wood Automotive Member 457 Member For: 22y 3m 2d Gender: Male Posted 25/03/03 10:22 AM Share Posted 25/03/03 10:22 AM I must admit I would've thought that all the stuff from TSI would net more than a 33% increase in power considering Ford were apparently seeing 300KW with "boost spike" testing!309Kw seems possibleThe Chiptorque car made 310RwHp at the Ford and Expensive Daewoo day in Brisbane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Member 453 Member For: 22y 2m 7d Location: Kurrajong, Sydney Posted 25/03/03 09:18 PM Share Posted 25/03/03 09:18 PM The Chiptorque car made 310RwHp at the Ford and Expensive Daewoo day in Brisbane. That would be about right as rwhp generally equates to fwkw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnaXR6T Member 1,519 Member For: 22y 2m 11d Location: Sydney Australia Posted 26/03/03 12:01 AM Share Posted 26/03/03 12:01 AM I dont really know much about power chips and their effects on cars engines, but wasnt there some concern about the thickness of the cylinder walls in our engines , wouldnt a increase in boost shorten the life of the engine. I love the sound of 310kw but I am concerned about things breaking more often. and didn't unichip acheive 270rwkw from only increasing the boost by 2 psi...can someone with a engineering backgroud explain how unichip got these figures from their low boost kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBT56 Mal Wood Automotive Member 457 Member For: 22y 3m 2d Gender: Male Posted 26/03/03 09:57 AM Share Posted 26/03/03 09:57 AM The answer to all these questions lays in one question. Did ford engineer this engine top to bottom to perform at it's on paper potential (injector size, turbo, fuel pump, etc) and then use the ECU to torque limit it? (In which case the first mod is obviously to "unclip" the torque curve) or did they build all the ancillaries around the engine's retarded potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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