Powerchip For XR6T

[CnC]

Power (hp) = Torque (ft-lb) x RPM / 5252

RPM = Power (hp) x 5252 / Torque (ft-lb)

1kw = 1.34hp

1ft-lb = 1.35nm

Assuming 562nm torque and 309kw:

RPM = (309 x 1.34) x 5252 / (562 / 1.35)

RPM = 5223

309kw @ 5223rpm with 562nm sounds quite reasonable to me, just do the math!

Also note that the factory quotes 240kw @ 5250rpm which is bloody close to the peak in power here as well.. remember that chips like this wont neccessarily change the shape of the torque curve, so peak torque should be in approximately the same place, and hence peak power will also be in approximately the same place, after all they are still both using the factory turbocharger.

A little bit of thought people please..

[saleen]

Mmmmm... 

I'm the first to admit that I know SFA about chips but a 70kw increase with no other mods (?) seems a bit sus to me. Especially after reading the Autospeed article; money back guarantee if you spend $Xhundred before and after dyno testing it.

Yeh I thought the same, but as a mate of mine pointed pointed out, with it being turbocharged, its not just ignition/fuel mixture its altering, the boost pressure is being tinkered with too, so its probably right.

[Guest PHNTUM]

I have spoke to Powerchip and asked a few questions about there product and this is what I was told?

1.Q. Is your power chip detecable?

A. Physicaly can be seen under the bonnet YES but it can not be detected by dealer diagnostic software.

2.Q. Do you cut the wiring loom or solder any thing to the ECU?

A. Ummmmm......im not a tech installer couldn't comment but will find out for you.

3.Q. Is the Chip avaliable for the XR6T automatic model?

A. Yes....no problem

4. Q. Are any of the autoshift point moved?

A. No all shift pionts are std factory settings.

5. Q. Does the XR6T still have lag on take off?

A. Yes......a little but more responsive that std.

6. Q. Is the boost value increased more that 6PSI?

A. YES boost is raised to 11PSI

7. Q. Is the intercooler upgraded?

A. No still running std intercooler.

8. Q. How is fuel effeciency effected?

A. Uses more fuel under full throttle.......but still good fuel effeciency at half throttle (highway driving)

9. Q. Can Std ULP be used when 98GOLD chip is used?

A. Yes......the car will ping if driving in a performance manner.........but can get away with it if std ULP is only avaliable.

10. Q. What is the nature of the small fueling modification?

A. Think it an increase in fuel pressure to stop the car form leaning out under full boost (11 PSI).

11. Q. Should you have you Exhaust and Air intake modification done befor the powerchip installed?

A. Doesn't matter cos the ECU is still self tuning....... and the those type of mod's can be doen before or after.

12. Q what about drive train...........is there risk of damage?

A. No ford's have build in a saftey factor....so there is room for power and torque increase.

13. Q. Will I have problems getting insurance?

A. Ask your insurance company? Yes just car insurance $1550

I am still waiting for a comfirmation email from powerchip for further information still haven't got it after 4 days.............you just gota ask your self about this product?

[cdm]

Thanks for that post PHNTUM, good to see somebody making a move and asking questions.

I have spoken to RACV about insurance and they told me regards an exhaust: For this car can only be from the cat back, cannot be all the way from the turbo back, and they told me that a chip was ok, but NOT on turbocharged vehicles such as this...that sux...However, I think I will stick with RACV because they were half the price ($1838 vs $3776) of Just Cars.

As far as warranty, my local dealer said that exhaust is OK, but chip is not. I think this depends on how well you know your dealer, however if you have a chip that "can not be detected by dealer diagnostic software" and something decides to go 'bang' then I'm sure the dealer will further inspect, and find the chip, then void warranty.

As attractive as this chip sounds, I don't know if the gearbox can handle it.

" ford's have build in a saftey factor....so there is room for power and torque increase"

The GT has 520nm of torque and uses the mustang box. If the XR6's T5 had so much reserve why would they have a different box in the 8's? Fair enough there is some reserve but 562nm is a lot of twist! That's nearly 25% more than the normal XR6T.

Who will be the first round of guniea cops? I think I may wait and see what Herrod has to offer, or, possiblly APS with the unichip...

[CJF077]

For the guys that missed out the pdf file is attached.

Also got an email from them today that it is due to be released any day now..

In standard form, the Ford Falcon BA XR6T 4.0 Turbo produces 240 kW, however the addition of a Powerchip Gold 98 will increase the power to 300 kW. In addition to the extra power, the torque is also increased. The Falcon BA XR6T 4.0 Turbo produces 450 Nm standard, and this is increased to 562 Nm. This means more pulling power especially up hills.

They are also taking pre-orders now for the chip...

You can check out more info here:

http://www.powerchipgroup.com/products/sho...asp?pid=For0108

For0108.pdf

[cdm]

Optional Full Power train Warranty: For an additional $190 you may extend the warranty to cover any damage to the power train due to a performance software upgrade from Powerchip

This was under the warranty section from the above link.

[Guest esky]

they can get 309 Kw and 562 Mn out of a standard xr6t

Something is seriously wrong with the torque output with that sort of Kw rating! It should be over 625Nm with that sort of Kw's. It looks like the manufacturer of the chip is trying to protect the driveline somewhat! The gearbox, tailshaft, diff and axles wont handle that sort of power and torque on a standard XR6T driveline. Not for long anyway! depending on how you drive it! Would be fun while it lasted but! B)

I agree.

Another thing. The TSI unit makes abut the same power at the fly as the Powerchip. But the TSi unit comes with exhaust, massive intercooler, larger pipe work, cold air box, 2 extra injectors and the Powerchip come with

A small fueling modification is made to alter the fuel mixture to suit an increase in boost pressure.

Same car with simular claimed power figures.....hmmm. Now what were you saying harasn.

[Lumpen]

I must admit I would've thought that all the stuff from TSI would net more than a 33% increase in power considering Ford were apparently seeing 300KW with "boost spike" testing!309Kw seems possible with more boost and "more aggresive timing"especially if its for optimax.

[PSI40L]

Firstly we have to look at what the costs are for the two upgrades and personally I think that the tsi is going to more than $1500 .Judging by the the fuel ratio we got on the day from the dyno I noticed that all of our cars where around 11.5 .This means that our cars r running rich so boosting it to 9-10 psi is still safe in my eyes or to get an efficient ratio of of 12.5-12.7.surely the injectors can programmed to flow a bit more . that's y I dont understand y the extra 2 injectors are required if the car is only boosting at 11 psi in the tsi upgrade.and this is the reason y`the powerchip doesnt need the extra two injectors the car is still safe not just that, the tsi system has all different housing .at least with the pwerchip u dont have to change anything before u goto ford. .the advantage of the tsi system I think is for more serious horsepower and future expandability where more loads of boost r required but then there r the shortcomings of the motor. im personally waiting to see what chiptorque is coming up with and from what I here it will be very serious as I personally spoke to aaron from sas last week . I think firstly we should all be a bit patient because it is only the beginning and there are other manufacturers out there that still r in the process of upgrading and yet we still dont know the shortcomings of these upgrades ...from there we can make our judgements on which up grade will be best to spend our money on...

[F6 RAPID]

I'm with you PSI140.

Personally, I cannot see the need for another 2 auxillary injectors for what is a moderate increase in boost really. Surely the standard injectors will flow sufficient amounts to meet 10-11 psi? But then again, they would have tested this ????????????

Oh well, it is all good times ahead that's for sure! :D