Grass Donating Members 447 Member For: 20y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 09/10/04 02:54 PM Share Posted 09/10/04 02:54 PM Next question is how much Horsepower do you need ?Once you get enough to spin the rear wheels at will what then ? Bigger rubber so the thing becomes a boat in the wet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xrtwpn Guests Posted 10/10/04 12:24 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 12:24 AM ok people look at it this way the new hsv ls2 will eat all the new fords no matter what way you look at it cause it was faster than them before with the ls1 you can go on about the f6 all you want but its going ever going to be a v8 nor beat a ls2ford just needs to pull there finger out and start putting some power into there engines take some weight out of the cars then it will be interestingand even if they do bring a gtho out there is going to be a 373kwatt gts out later this year and I dont think the gtho will beat that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDewd FG Falcon fan! Member 1,452 Member For: 21y 5m 14d Gender: Male Location: Canberra Posted 10/10/04 12:45 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 12:45 AM xarh6turbo,mate, not everyone makes a car-buying decision according to kW alone - you know this.* Holden's problem is that people are willing to buy a very slightly slower XR6T because its a better car - read the reviews in Motor and Wheels. SS and SV8 are ok cars overall, but theyre just not quite as good.* Ford's engine is all-Australian - Holden's is a Yankee import . And we all know that the Yanks make the worst cars in the world other than the Russians. I had a chev camaro for over 4 yrs, it looked great, had a sound drivetrain...but I could write a book on its flaws.* High-tech. The XR6T has technology all over Holden's offerings by far. This is a big selling point in some people's eyes. V8s are ok, but some people think theyre dinosaurs. Expensive Daewoo has caught up in this dept though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grass Donating Members 447 Member For: 20y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 10/10/04 01:21 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 01:21 AM If you guys are so worried about Horsepower, why not just put V8Supercar engine in, 600BHP, sure it would out strip everything else on the road... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saleen Big Gun Donating Members 4,170 Member For: 22y 2m 10d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 10/10/04 02:37 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 02:37 AM ford just needs to pull there finger out and start putting some power into there engines take some weight out of the cars then it will be interesting I think by just losing wieght alone off the V8 powered cars would increase performance quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 7m 9d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 10/10/04 07:28 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 07:28 AM ok people look at it this way the new hsv ls2 will eat all the new fords no matter what way you look at it cause it was faster than them before with the ls1 you can go on about the f6 all you want but its going ever going to be a v8 nor beat a ls2ford just needs to pull there finger out and start putting some power into there engines take some weight out of the cars then it will be interestingand even if they do bring a gtho out there is going to be a 373kwatt gts out later this year and I dont think the gtho will beat that I have to disagree Adam. My car standard never had a problem with standard HSV's. I also doubt that there will be any Holdens I'm going to meet on the street that will beat me either. If you have a look at the LS1 site's drag times anything in the 11's aint on standard street rubber. I don't doubt that a twin turbo LS2 on slicks would flog me, it would beat me easy. Put that same car on street tyres and by the time he gets traction I'm that far away I'll need to send him a postcard. The Expensive Daewoo guys remove interiors and the like chasing that extra 1/100th, whats the point. At a set of lights you can't ask the guy your lining up against to wait whilst slicks are put on and you've removed half the interior.Anytime APS or anyone else wants to run me at Calder with their twin turbos on street tyres I'll be there with bells on. Geea. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO240 Member 628 Member For: 21y 4m 15d Gender: Male Location: Geelong Posted 10/10/04 07:35 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 07:35 AM Anytime APS or anyone else wants to run me at Calder with their twin turbos on street tyres I'll be there with bells on. Geea. :o hells bells ill be there for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPVPSI Member 503 Member For: 21y 10m 4d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 10/10/04 07:42 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 07:42 AM It seems like a great engine, but its a 6.0lt...gosh that's a big engine! I aint dissing it im just saying at 6.0 it really should have been more powerfull.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatV8 Artificially Aspirated Member 951 Member For: 20y 11m 10d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 10/10/04 08:03 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 08:03 AM (edited) It seems like a great engine, but its a 6.0lt...gosh that's a big engine! I aint dissing it im just saying at 6.0 it really should have been more powerfull....Remember though, this is "base" for the LS2... "base" LS1 in corvette made 260 odd kw... So it isn't doing too bad on power front but look at the torque it makes over LS1 and LS6. Corvette has displacment on demand which makes the fuel economy pretty awesome for it, does anyone know if HSV will be running the DOD? Edited 10/10/04 08:04 AM by eatV8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xrtwpn Guests Posted 10/10/04 08:38 AM Share Posted 10/10/04 08:38 AM ok people look at it this way the new hsv ls2 will eat all the new fords no matter what way you look at it cause it was faster than them before with the ls1 you can go on about the f6 all you want but its going ever going to be a v8 nor beat a ls2ford just needs to pull there finger out and start putting some power into there engines take some weight out of the cars then it will be interestingand even if they do bring a gtho out there is going to be a 373kwatt gts out later this year and I dont think the gtho will beat thatI have to disagree Adam. My car standard never had a problem with standard HSV's. I also doubt that there will be any Holdens I'm going to meet on the street that will beat me either. If you have a look at the LS1 site's drag times anything in the 11's aint on standard street rubber. I don't doubt that a twin turbo LS2 on slicks would flog me, it would beat me easy. Put that same car on street tyres and by the time he gets traction I'm that far away I'll need to send him a postcard. The Expensive Daewoo guys remove interiors and the like chasing that extra 1/100th, whats the point. At a set of lights you can't ask the guy your lining up against to wait whilst slicks are put on and you've removed half the interior.Anytime APS or anyone else wants to run me at Calder with their twin turbos on street tyres I'll be there with bells on. Geea. craig your car is fast for what it is but you wouldnt beat a twin turbo ls1 most of them run slicks cause they have too much power to get traction I ran slicks because I couldnt get traction I will never run my xr6t on street rubber because I cant get traction in this car eitherI ran a 12 flat at 122mph on street tyres with only 280 at the wheels in my gto your time is good but not that good considering the power you have I know of many ls1 with only 240rwkw to 250rwkw that run high to mid 11's on streer rubberI have had both cars I think I know what im talking about more than most people on here just some people are way to one sidedin standard form the ls2 is and will kill the fords there is no if buts or maybesthe xr6t is a great car for the price range but there are many better cars out thereI could give you a list of things my gto did better than an xr6t and vice versaI think some people need to give respect to a car for what it is none of this Expensive Daewoo is ford is cause next to a bmw or audi or so they are both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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