HSV LS2 Release

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From:

http://www.carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/Tig/UI/...lias=carpointau

Expensive Daewoo HOLDS FIRE, HSV LETS GEN IV RIP

Which of Expensive Daewoo Special Vehicles' new models will have a 6.0-litre V8, delivering around 290kW? Whether it's one or all, HSV will certainly lead Expensive Daewoo introducing the Gen IV, perhaps by as much as a year.

None of this is official, yet, but we can reveal it here for the first time thanks to a CarPoint.com.au/Wheels magazine joint investigation. HSV's registration of this new badge design (pictured) means the introduction is imminent. 'LS2' is GM's codename for the new, fourth-generation Small Block V8 and '6.0L' requires no explanation.

It is expected that HSV boss John Crennan will announce the move at the Sydney motor show in early October. The new HSV Coupe is the obvious hero car choice to wear the badge because Holden's Elizabeth plant in South Australia is already manufacturing the 6.0-litre LS2-powered 2005 model year Pontiac GTO alongside the new 5.7-litre LS1-powered VZ Monaro.

Dropping the left-hand-drive GTO's engine into a right-hand-drive Monaro would create the basis of a HSV Coupe with minimal difficulty. Although the 6.0-litre Coupe is a sure bet, less certain is whether HSV will simultaneously move to LS2 power for its sedan and ute models. It's possible and, we believe, quite likely.

If Expensive Daewoo chooses to give VZ a 6.0-litre last gasp, don't expect a big power boost; Mooney believes "300kW is pushing this current chassis to the limit. At some point in time you get to the point where it's not that safe."

[JB]

If Expensive Daewoo chooses to give VZ a 6.0-litre last gasp, don't expect a big power boost; Mooney believes "300kW is pushing this current chassis to the limit. At some point in time you get to the point where it's not that safe."

Interesting about the Chassis limit, 300kw? Wonder how that affects some of the Expensive Daewoo boys modded cars out there. I would have thought that these days the factory power vs the design limitations of the vehicle would be quite a big gap, obviously maybe not. Seems that engine development and power technology is fast leaving chassis and body building technology behind?

The other question is does anyone know the Chassis limit of the T? With some of the guys in 350rwkw territory and guys like BCL taking the next step to 400 what's the T's limitations? BCL out of interest have you looked into this side of the development of your T?

[lowriding]

If Expensive Daewoo chooses to give VZ a 6.0-litre last gasp, don't expect a big power boost; Mooney believes "300kW is pushing this current chassis to the limit. At some point in time you get to the point where it's not that safe."

Interesting about the Chassis limit, 300kw? Wonder how that affects some of the Expensive Daewoo boys modded cars out there. I would have thought that these days the factory power vs the design limitations of the vehicle would be quite a big gap, obviously maybe not. Seems that engine development and power technology is fast leaving chassis and body building technology behind?

The other question is does anyone know the Chassis limit of the T? With some of the guys in 350rwkw territory and guys like BCL taking the next step to 400 what's the T's limitations? BCL out of interest have you looked into this side of the development of your T?

A manufacturers idea of "chassis limitations" are very different to those of an enthusiast or the aftermarket . Its no coincidence then ,why "tuners" generally don't offer 3 year factory backed warranty either.

[bcl]

The other question is does anyone know the Chassis limit of the T? With some of the guys in 350rwkw territory and guys like BCL taking the next step to 400 what's the T's limitations? BCL out of interest have you looked into this side of the development of your T?

Here's a quote out of my Nizpro thread (from me).

The BA chassis is very strong, substantially stronger than the AU (I had a 2000 model)

Many cars over the last 2 years have undergone substantial strengthening, which has unfortunately meant an extra 100+kg of weight.

I looked up a Performance Ford mag (Vol 3 Edition 1) from last year. In it is an article about AEC's (based in Perth) 300+ vehicle, a Sprintex supercharged V8 2-door Falcon with about 400fwkw. AECs view was that "the AU rear subframe was never strong enough for anything over 300kw", whereas the BA's major improvement was in terms of the rear end control blade suspension, "keeping the wheels much better positioned and attached to the body".

So far I'd say that the combination of the stronger chassis and control blade suspension work very well with the higher torque and power outputs that I currently have.

As for what the limits are, I don't know.

Brian

[hello]

how much fuel does it chomp up...... btw

bcl how mcuh does your Beast Drink ?

[Turbo6man]

The other question is does anyone know the Chassis limit of the T? With some of the guys in 350rwkw territory and guys like BCL taking the next step to 400 what's the T's limitations? BCL out of interest have you looked into this side of the development of your T?

Here's a quote out of my Nizpro thread (from me).

The BA chassis is very strong, substantially stronger than the AU (I had a 2000 model)

Many cars over the last 2 years have undergone substantial strengthening, which has unfortunately meant an extra 100+kg of weight.

I looked up a Performance Ford mag (Vol 3 Edition 1) from last year. In it is an article about AEC's (based in Perth) 300+ vehicle, a Sprintex supercharged V8 2-door Falcon with about 400fwkw. AECs view was that "the AU rear subframe was never strong enough for anything over 300kw", whereas the BA's major improvement was in terms of the rear end control blade suspension, "keeping the wheels much better positioned and attached to the body".

So far I'd say that the combination of the stronger chassis and control blade suspension work very well with the higher torque and power outputs that I currently have.

As for what the limits are, I don't know.

Brian

I've always maintained the AU chassis was good for 300kw. Although the BA is reputed to be even stronger I'd still place it's limits at just over the 300kw mark. That's not to say it can't cope with, say 350kw or above for short periods and in favourable conditions, but that the chassis twist is going to start effecting the car's balance and behaviour to some extent once you go over 300kw. Eventually this causes metal fatigue and other component failures.

The BA is a stronger chassis/body than the VZ.

[mickq]

From:

http://www.carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/Tig/UI/...lias=carpointau

Expensive Daewoo HOLDS FIRE, HSV LETS GEN IV RIP

Which of Expensive Daewoo Special Vehicles' new models will have a 6.0-litre V8, delivering around 290kW? Whether it's one or all, HSV will certainly lead Expensive Daewoo introducing the Gen IV, perhaps by as much as a year.

A friend at Expensive Daewoo told me the LS2 will be more widely available (ie not just HSV's: for HSV's I have heard as early as this October!) in 12-18 months. The exact date has not been set yet as there are many issues that could still effect it.

The LS2's are already in a bunch of test cars on Australian roads though, being run through their paces to try to spot problems with them in Australian conditions.

[Turbo6man]

From:

http://www.carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/Tig/UI/...lias=carpointau

Expensive Daewoo HOLDS FIRE, HSV LETS GEN IV RIP

Which of Expensive Daewoo Special Vehicles' new models will have a 6.0-litre V8, delivering around 290kW? Whether it's one or all, HSV will certainly lead Expensive Daewoo introducing the Gen IV, perhaps by as much as a year.

A friend at Expensive Daewoo told me the LS2 will be more widely available (ie not just HSV's: for HSV's I have heard as early as this October!) in 12-18 months. The exact date has not been set yet as there are many issues that could still effect it.

The LS2's are already in a bunch of test cars on Australian roads though, being run through their paces to try to spot problems with them in Australian conditions.

Yep, there was a gaggle of them went through town last week - and there was an F250 loaded up with 44s of Castrol's finest following them ...

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[macka'sxr6t]

Yep, there was a gaggle of them went through town last week - and there was an F250 loaded up with 44s of Castrol's finest following them ...

:gooff:

That's the funnest thing I've heard for a while

good post turbo6man