colbourne Member 52 Member For: 21y 3m 13d Posted 15/09/04 05:34 PM Share Posted 15/09/04 05:34 PM I am new to auto transmissions and wanted to know whether it is acceptable practice to while in manual mode drop a gear to gain the braking effect from the engine.Is this likely to damage the transmission. I understand that on hills using the engine for braking is Ok as it is only whilst changing that bad wear will occur.Is this dropping a gear something that would be recommended at a track day from 160+ km/h ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwnaXR6T Member 1,519 Member For: 22y 4m 10d Location: Sydney Australia Posted 15/09/04 09:56 PM Share Posted 15/09/04 09:56 PM I personally cant see it being good for the trannie but others might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrdreaming Lifetime Members 1,693 Member For: 22y 2m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 15/09/04 09:58 PM Share Posted 15/09/04 09:58 PM During a track day , I can't see how you wouldn't need to engine brake coming into corners. I would want damn big brakes if you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 15/09/04 10:30 PM Share Posted 15/09/04 10:30 PM drive my auto just like a manual , all of the time . Secret is dont drop it back at high revs if you want your auto to last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdTurbo Team - Anti Rice Blueprint Member # 1 Member 202 Member For: 21y 7m 12d Location: Sydney Posted 16/09/04 01:33 AM Share Posted 16/09/04 01:33 AM colbourne said: I am new to auto transmissions and wanted to know whether it is acceptable practice to while in manual mode drop a gear to gain the braking effect from the engine.Is this likely to damage the transmission. I understand that on hills using the engine for braking is Ok as it is only whilst changing that bad wear will occur.Is this dropping a gear something that would be recommended at a track day from 160+ km/h ? There's a saying "Gears are for going and brakes are for slowing".Why wear out your tranny unneccessairly? Use the brakes for corner entry. $100 - $200 for brake pads (a consumable) compared to $1000+ for a transmission (key mechanical component). If you drive the SSS in manual mode or a conventional manual, do all your braking in a straight line (if possible) and as you hit the apex ensure that you shift to the correct gear at this time for the corner exit.On the other if your brakes have faded, transmission braking is an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 22y 22d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 16/09/04 02:00 AM Share Posted 16/09/04 02:00 AM I often push mine back without looking to hard at the tach/speedo, relying on the computer to now when is safe to allow the box downshift.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 16/09/04 02:06 AM Share Posted 16/09/04 02:06 AM If you push to soon the thing wont change till its safe to,try it ,it worksvik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Member 1,869 Member For: 21y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 16/09/04 06:27 AM Share Posted 16/09/04 06:27 AM It's not great for the transmission and will create more wear but if your the type of person that pushes your car to the limit then you'll need to use the engine braking to slow you up enough coming into the corners. As 3rdTurbo said get all your braking done before the corner and accelerate through as braking while cornering is not a good practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 5m 29d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 16/09/04 10:15 AM Share Posted 16/09/04 10:15 AM colbourne said: I am new to auto transmissions and wanted to know whether it is acceptable practice to while in manual mode drop a gear to gain the braking effect from the engine.Is this likely to damage the transmission. I understand that on hills using the engine for braking is Ok as it is only whilst changing that bad wear will occur.Is this dropping a gear something that would be recommended at a track day from 160+ km/h ? You can use the auto exactly as you would a manual - the engine braking will not be quite as effective as a manual but is still acceptable ... and there is a small delay in the shifting unless you have had the transmission modded.You will do no harm to the transmission at all by doing this and it will not unduly increase wear or cause any premature costs for repairs. Transmissions are generally built to last not tens but hundreds of thousands of km.Also your car's balance on coming into corners, esp downhill, will be far better under engine braking than wheel braking. For me brakes are a last resort - damn things only slow you down !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
351 Member 184 Member For: 20y 8m 3d Posted 16/09/04 11:42 AM Share Posted 16/09/04 11:42 AM I am with you turbo6man I totally agree because I dont know how some people can think that at a track day your brakes are going to last too long providing you dont have track brakes.I generally I only use my brakes right when I start to slow down then use my tranny ,mine is a manual so I cant speak for you guys with autos but seriously you should try using the gearbox to its full potential.Besides when slowing a 1700+kg car from 160+ kms you really should be using any stopping power you can get.p.s gearbox brakings great but compression lock up is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now