My stage one is complete 358.9rwkw

[Geeseman]

So I find it really hard to beleive that it depend on how you drive the t5 is a weak gear box that's why ford is changing to the 6 speed so quickly I have friends within ford that said them selve the xr6 turbos are breaking the t5 gear boxs with stock engines

I think its more dependant on the varying quality of factory components. We have seen some people with stock Ts have problems with transmissions, manual and auto. Modded Ts have also had issues with only 250rwkw, while some are running down the drags with 350rwkw.

Its the luck of the draw. Given good enough factory components, the number of successful running modded Ts suggests that you can mod the car up to reasonable power levels and not expect too much trouble. Nothing is guaranteed though and that's life.

[bcl]

Also I remember the derision from you after I reported that I put strengthened internals in my car. I now know of a number of APS cars that have blown engines.

So let's just see what eventuates on this matter.

You may be right, but then again....

Yeah the best way to debate an issue when you don't know what you on about is to change the topic..............well done Brian.

I can also say that I know of many Nizpro engines which have failed and this does not make it absolutely true and I doubt that your comments are accurate.............though this has nothing to do with your original comments pertaining to aux injectors.

I sure I'm right and I look foward to you providing an emission report proving that your car is emission legal..............otherwise you have just designed another illegal high performance road car..............good stuff. :lol:

Peter

APS

We may well find that you don't know what you're on about, and yet again misleading this forum.

As for blown motors running APS gear in Ford motors, this is not made up, and I have first hand knowledge.

As for "many Nizpro engines which have failed" that is clearly not true, and I get the impression that you believe you can state whatever you like on this forum.

Not everyone believes what you say,nor the APS publicity machine.

[Guest xrtwpn]

Also I remember the derision from you after I reported that I put strengthened internals in my car. I now know of a number of APS cars that have blown engines.

So let's just see what eventuates on this matter.

You may be right, but then again....

Yeah the best way to debate an issue when you don't know what you on about is to change the topic..............well done Brian.

I can also say that I know of many Nizpro engines which have failed and this does not make it absolutely true and I doubt that your comments are accurate.............though this has nothing to do with your original comments pertaining to aux injectors.

I sure I'm right and I look foward to you providing an emission report proving that your car is emission legal..............otherwise you have just designed another illegal high performance road car..............good stuff. :lol:

Peter

APS

passing the emissions test is great ,

But not everyone cares about it

I'm sure if you went to calder you would find that 99% of the cars there wouldnt pass the test but do them people care ?

I dont think so

Me personal I couldnt careless about the emission's

This always seems to be the APS come back to everything emissions emissions as you would have found on the ls1 forum by now they couldnt careless about it either

As for the 12 injectors being better than 6, why run 12 injectors when you can run 6 you dont run 12 injector cause its a better setup , you runs it cause unichip cant handle any bigger injectors and yes I know nor can xede

[Dr Z]

So I find it really hard to beleive that it depend on how you drive the t5 is a weak gear box that's why ford is changing to the 6 speed so quickly I have friends within ford that said them selve the xr6 turbos are breaking the t5 gear boxs with stock engines

I think its more dependant on the varying quality of factory components. We have seen some people with stock Ts have problems with transmissions, manual and auto. Modded Ts have also had issues with only 250rwkw, while some are running down the drags with 350rwkw.

Its the luck of the draw. Given good enough factory components, the number of successful running modded Ts suggests that you can mod the car up to reasonable power levels and not expect too much trouble. Nothing is guaranteed though and that's life.

Geeseman, I agree. I had my 3rd automatic transmission installed on a stock T in less than 5000 km, and I did not drive my car all that hard. The first transmission to blow was FPV's fault for not plugging the PCM in properly which seriously played havoc with the entire driveline. The second transmission made noises that were way too loud.

In short, it is a great point you make that not even all factory components have the same level of manufactured quality. In essence, original manufacturing quality and type of driving style are two highly significant factors in the long term reliability of anyone's driveline, stock or modified, though modified will increase the probabilities of component failure.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.

[aps]

As for "many Nizpro engines which have failed" that is clearly not true, and I get the impression that you believe you can state whatever you like on this forum.

 

Why because you say so...............this must make it so.

Brian you never cease to amaze me......you've owned 5 turbo cars so now you're an absolute expert/legend on every turbo related issue..................I get the impresion that you believe you can say what you like and continually slag APS products and never be held accountable for your comments. :lol:

Regards

Peter

[Geeseman]

As for blown motors running APS gear in Ford motors, this is not made up, and I have first hand knowledge.

I only know of two motors that have had issues and stating that they are a direct result of aps modifications is very hard to believe.

Cuspub has mentioned on this forum that he has had to do numerous rebuilds of engines due to rods destroying the engine. Is this a result of their kits? I dont think so either.

As for the 12 injectors being better than 6, why run 12 injectors when you can run 6 you dont run 12 injector cause its a better setup , you runs it cause unichip cant handle any bigger injectors and yes I know nor can xede

This may be the case, but does the fact that it runs 12 injectors mean it is any less capable of producing power???

If anything, It might very well be able to idle better, have better fuel economy and meeting emissions tests which is important to some people, perhaps not yourself

[Ford_Power]

Another advantage of having aux injectors further back in the inlet setup is that of cooling the inlet manifold.

This results in much cooler mixtures, reduces the overall engine temp, and thus results in more power.

Ross

[aps]

passing the emissions test is great ,

But not everyone cares about it

I'm sure if you went to calder you would find that 99% of the cars there wouldnt pass the test but do them people care ?

I dont think so

Me personal I couldnt careless about the emission's

Yes and if and when modifying cars is banned permanently we will have all of these people to thank for it.

Don't say it can't or wont happen one day as it's on the agenda right now.............if we continue to blatantly ignore and break EPA laws and RTA regulations the time will come when the authorities will act.

Try living in LA for 12 months and say you don't care about engine emissions. :lol:

Peter

APS

[Guest xrtwpn]

As for "many Nizpro engines which have failed" that is clearly not true, and I get the impression that you believe you can state whatever you like on this forum.

 

Why because you say so...............this must make it so.

Brian you never cease to amaze me......you've owned 5 turbo cars so now you're an absolute expert/legend on every turbo related issue..................I get the impresion that you believe you can say what you like and continually slag APS products and never be held accountable for your comments. :lol:

Regards

Peter

Peter

Brian is alot more helpful on the phone than any aps person I have ever spoken to and everyone is entitled to there opinions on products .

That is the whole point of a forum

Considring you are a director of aps your very unprofessional remember everyone on here is a potential customer and I know if I were sitting back reading this I wouldnt be thinking highly of yourself nor aps

I know if I spoke to my customers or people within the same industry like this my dad would sack me

just some thought for you these are cars and there is no reason to get personal

Edited 22/09/04 12:28 PM by xarh6turbo

[aps]

Another advantage of having aux injectors further back in the inlet setup is that of cooling the inlet manifold.

This results in much cooler mixtures, reduces the overall engine temp, and thus results in more power.

Ross

Absolutely spot on Ross.............it's like adding a small intercooler to the inlet charge.

Peter

APS