APS Phase 2 kit now $4400.00 fitted

[aps]

so would that require valve springs?

Dave.

Dave, I always recommend stronger valve springs when getting up into the higher power levels (say over 250 RWkW's) in particular when the car is running high power with the stock exhaust.

With the APS phase 11 system it's much less of a worry due to the massive reduction of exhaust back pressure (back pressure at the valves) because of the very low restriction delivered by the fitment of the APS exhaust system.

Peter

APS

[aps]

Hmm, what are the implications of not using the fuel pump?  I would appreciate a reply from Peter or George at APS on this question.

Cheers from sunny Hong Kong, Dr Z.

Hi Dr Z,

The implications are certainly all positive. As Peter had said in a previous post, we now have sufficient long-term test data to support the conclusion that at PHASE II power levels, it is prudent to revise the PHASE II component specification and move the fuel pump from PHASE II to PHASE III – without affecting the power level (PHASE II remains at 330 kW).

In addition, due to the consistently high production levels of the PAHSE II system components, APS has developed higher efficiency production techniques and gained better raw component purchasing power. This means that the manufacturing cost of the PHASE II system has become less expensive to APS. These are savings that APS is pleased to pass on to our customers.

That along with the revised specification (now with no requirement for the fuel pump and the associated installation costs borne by fitment of the fuel pump), the overall cost of the PHASE II system to the APS customer is as you have seen significantly lower.

As we have seen with the revised PHASE I system some time ago, the revised PHASE II (and PHASE III – now with fuel pump), system specifications are never static. It is an APS goal to re-examine APS products on a regular basis as long-term test data is generated in order to continue to produce the best possible engine performance solutions at the most cost effective price to our customers.

At the end of the day, we have passed on the benefits of lower manufacturing and component costs onto our customers.

I trust that this clarifies the reasoning behind the revised PHASE II and PHASE III specifications. It also makes the PHASE II system arguably the most cost effective way of moving into the happy side of the 12 second club – with proven emission compliance….....here we go again :lol:

George

APS Web Team…and other stuff

Edited 15/09/04 06:04 AM by aps

[Blown BA]

APS only uses the quality Bosch multi orifice fuel injectors........ as we always have in phase 11 system.

Peter

APS

So you do use Bosch injectors...why didn't you just say so :lol:

[aps]

In the past , .... I was under the impression that APS charged dealers a fee ($8000+) for the assurance that APS will not sell direct to customers

APS has always sold directly to retail consumers (in house fitments) so I don't understand how these silly rumors get started.

APS dealers are appointed to resell product to their customers and there are certain commercial and technical conditions that all APS dealers must meet.

Mention of an $8000 fee is plain wrong..............APS is far more concerned about the dealers ability to provide excellent workmanship and customer service.

Peter

APS

[turbotom]

I trust that this clarifies the reasoning behind the revised PHASE II and PHASE III specifications. It also makes the PHASE II system arguably the most cost effective way of moving into the happy side of the 12 second club – with proven emission compliance….....here we go again :lol:

George

APS Web Team…and other stuff

That's fantastic news George, Peter.

So what are the revised prices now for APS Phase II and Phase III ?

cheers

tom

[aps]

That's fantastic news George, Peter.

So what are the revised prices now for APS Phase II  and  Phase III ?

cheers

tom

Tom the new Phase II price is $4565 installed and dyno tuned inc GST................I reckon this has to be the best bang for buck possible for the XR6T..............what do think?

APS Phase III prices will be available next week...............not much change really just the addition of the fuel pump.

Here's a link to the updated web page http://www.aps-xr6t.com/falcon/phase_ii.htm

Regards

Peter

[turbotom]

That's fantastic news George, Peter.

So what are the revised prices now for APS Phase II   and  Phase III ?

cheers

tom

Tom the new Phase II price is $4565 installed and dyno tuned inc GST................I reckon this has to be the best bang for buck possible for the XR6T..............what do think?

APS Phase III prices will be available next week...............not much change really just the addition of the fuel pump.

Regards

Peter

Sounds bloody good to me peter....

The money I'll save at this stage will cover the cost of the George Benson Concert in Melbourne AND the Lion King Show in Sydney...

These were the sweeteners I had to pull out to pacify the wife when she found out about the install scheduled next month. :lol: :lol: :lol:

great stuff.

Can't wait.

[Dr Z]

That's fantastic news George, Peter.

So what are the revised prices now for APS Phase II   and  Phase III ?

cheers

tom

Tom the new Phase II price is $4565 installed and dyno tuned inc GST................I reckon this has to be the best bang for buck possible for the XR6T..............what do think?

APS Phase III prices will be available next week...............not much change really just the addition of the fuel pump.

Here's a link to the updated web page http://www.aps-xr6t.com/falcon/phase_ii.htm

Regards

Peter

Suddenly, what has been holding me back from modifying my T, the Typhoon, does not have so much of a hold on me anymore.

Still, another part of me is almost 100% convinced that APS and others will have something in mind for the Typhoon as well. Peter or George, care to share anything on this speculation to give us something to think about?

Peter, when you confirm the new Phase III price, I will update the post in your section of the forum to reflect these changes. The new Phase II price has been updated, and the thread can be seen here:

APS Power/Torque/Price numbers

I will also update the comparison spreadsheet and upload it once Peter provides the new Phase III price.

Safe and happy driving...Dr Z.

[bcl]

Guys,

This is called "competition".

Nizpro have modified their stage 2 package to produce 395fwkw for $8246, which is close to the APS Phase 3 levels.

APS have reacted by cutting the price of their stage 2 kit, to entice people at a lower entry point, but you'll pay for the next stage.

I have quite a clear recollection of Dave Innall at the C&V day telling us with authority how important it was to change the fuel pump, as it will lose its effectiveness after 12 months or so.

And don't believe for a minute that APS don't take notice of what Nizpro does.

The more competition the better it is for us all!

If you stop at stage 2, it's great bang-for-buck, but the next stage is addictive, but that’s when it becomes far more expensive (in both $/kw and absolute terms) if you do the valve springs, auto, and brakes …. $12k slips out of your wallet before you know it.

If you’re going beyond Stage 2 look carefully at all your options before you dive in.

Brian

[ms700]

Another question for APS....

Should the auto be "done" as a part of a Phase II package?

Or is the auto considered OK with a motor churning out 330kw?