Optioned up XR6T or Typhoon

[Phido]

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FYI, GTP does have premium ICC ... I nearly bought it ...

Well someone better tell FPV and the web designer..

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Standard fitment on the Ford Performance Vehicles GT-P is a whopping 100-watt Prestige audio system with 6-disc in-dash CD managed by an LCD display screen, set in the Interior Command Centre.

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You also have the option to upgrade to a Premium sound system that adds a full-colour TFT display, a 150-watt amplifier and 150-watt sub-woofer.

Again you buy a GT-P and spend even more money upgrading it. Which you won't get back at resale, even then, you don't get things you can find in a $20k korean car like power seats, memory mirrors and seat, stability controls etc.

Im sure there are plenty of people that would love a stripper fast car, with wind up windows, leaver mirrors, tape deck, AM radio and 14" steelie. I don't. Ford doesn't have anything to offer me. Me go shop else where, find real car. Me buy, me drive, me happy. Me pine for real Ford car, Ford tells me to shove it up my ass, cause its too busy rogering its private buyers.

[ZAP]

Phido,

I do not know where you get your BMW pricing from, but 5 series start at $80k. What you are after would fall more into M5 for performance and brakes and they are over $140k.

I did see that FPV made a LTD into a hypo luxo rocketship, but I do not think it will ever see production as they sell so few Ghia/LTD's that it would be uneconomic for them to to make a limited Turbo Ghia. If Ford was exporting around the world and selling these cars overseas, it may justify the Turbo option, but I think their model placing is close to the mark. They could do a Ford by design and allow you to option up a Ghia with Brembo's and a Turbo, but I would hate to see what that option bill would be :lol:

If you got a 12month old Ghia v8/6 and put a blower or Turbo and some Alcon 6spot racing brakes and spent a bit on the handling, you may get your dream car

[Phido]

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I do not know where you get your BMW pricing from, but 5 series start at $80k. What you are after would fall more into M5 for performance and brakes and they are over $140k.

Yes, I know they start at $80k.. XR6T stops at mid $75k with trinkets. XR6T faster, but it *beep* wearing trinket mobile, and still doesn't have what I want just a whole bunch of crap I don't.

I don't see why Ford can't put the brakes and stability control off a standard $35k territory, the engine from a $40k ute, into a currently $50k sedan with a gearbox they will be making themselves for less than the cost of a current BTR 4 speed. I could handle a BTR 4 speed, but it would be very disapointing..

The brakes would cost ford almost nothing more and should be standard on XR, the stability system same deal, and the Ghia being a flagship car should beable to get alteast one good engine (XR6T or XR8).. And decent audio should be standard in the Ghia and not going backwards.

But NNNNoooooooo.. that's crazy talk. Ghia flagship? Xr engine in a Ghia (like they did pre BA)? You mean you want brakes on your car?! Stability control like on the acclaim or territory? No way! Can't have that. Can't even get LSD on a Ghia anymore.

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They could do a Ford by design and allow you to option up a Ghia with Brembo's and a Turbo, but I would hate to see what that option bill would be

I've looked at everything. Best thing I can get is a XR6T with luxury pack and full options, Ghia seats in the front (most likely with no memory), ghia bumper headlights, rear ghia bumper, Ghia wheels, in a common XR/Ghia colour.. But you have a highly modified XR6T, not a Ghia, purchase price reaches into the $100k zone (for a $45k car!), with highly questionably resale, long waiting time while they order it, build it etc. Insurance is essentially unobtainable.

I want it, but not that badly. V6 Calais would do the job (possibly with some sort of supercharger). And 2nd hand 540/E500/LS430 would great for even lower cost.

You can have the bluest ford blood in the world. But if you ever outgrow the XR range, your on your own. Ford tells you to buy a Jaguar and a coffin and write yourself a will and become a wa*ker.

[Guest jteale]

  Phido said:

Yes, I know they start at $80k.. XR6T stops at mid $75k with trinkets. XR6T faster, but it *beep* wearing trinket mobile, and still doesn't have what I want just a whole bunch of crap I don't.

Mate, not everybody gets exactly what they want ... I mean the crap you don't want somebody else does ... so what do we do ... build custom models ... they are Ford Falcons ... built for the masses!

I think that both the Typhoon and T are exactly what the majority want, minorities like you will always be disappointed by not getting exactly the right shade of trim on the underside of the dash ...

Good luck finding the perfect car ...

[Phido]

I'll get what I want, just not from Ford.

I don't even know if the majority really want a stripper falcon.. Look around, I see alot of optioned up cars in here in signatures, luxury packs, 18" wheels, even new transmissions, tyres, leather, premium audio, scuff plates, premium brakes. I don't see many "XR6T - that's it". Would you still buy a XR6T with out aircon, alloys etc?

XR6T is a great car, actually its a fantastic car. I love the sound, then engine, the feel, the handling style, the power. Its just too bad I think the rest of the car is flawed and needs a great deal of options to make it pretty nice inside to compliment the engine. The really sad thing is most of those wouldn't actually cost ford very much to develop or include.

But now I'm torn, the XR6T engine is so nice, I'll need to look very hard to find something that will capture that kind of magic in a diffrent engine configuration (four door R34 2.5LT excluded).

[dutchie]

Phido,

I've been reading this forum with interest........

You seems like an inteligent person but I honestly think your getting a bit too fussy and perhaps to ricey.........

my T is my 7th new car in the past 20 yrs........and I have never had everything I wanted in them...........if this was the case, each car would be personally built and add a further $5K to the price........

If your not happy with your options and pricing from Ford, go buy a nice silver Hyundai Lantra with all your fancy options......!!! and dont forget your illuminated brake pedal..

PS And stop writing assignments as your waisting a lot of space on the server which can be utilized for XR6T forums members

Having said all that.....

June 2004 built XR6T, Blueprint, SSS, Premium Sound, Sunroof, Garmin Sat Nav 60C, Rear Window Sunshade, Towpack, XR Scuffs, XR Matts, Foglight Protectors, Tinted Windows, Alarms...........

[jordak]

Lets just compare apples with apples - I have driven just about everything worth driving under 100k. Now assuming you are a spirited driver who wants a an attractive looking new car , with a reasonable amount of comfort, a T with 5k spent on it hard to beat !

Lets have some examples of 50k cars that offer the fun factor as well as being able to accomodate a set of golf clubs and five adults.

[Guest Maniac]

I think everyone is forgetting the fact that all cars will come standard and for them to make more money from you they will option it up and make you pay some $$ for it.

Who ever said that this doesn't help resale value - is COMPLETELY WRONG. Mate, I gurantee you If I had the same car as yours, but mine was leather, with a sunroof and premium sound for $3,000 more, I gurantee you if the sales guy is good enough he will convince the buyer to pay that extra $3,000 to get the better car.

The whole point is, at the end of the day its a FORD. You can't expect the world from them. I mean all sh*t aside, Ford where f*cking hopeless up until they released the BA's. The whole point I'm trying to make is that you pay for what you get for and what you pay for a falcon, is quiet good. It is value for money. You get your leather, your premium sound, your scuff plates, xr mats, sports steering wheel and gear knob, tints and whatever else for $4000. Try getting the same stuff with Audi or BMW or even Merc and we'll see how much the bill hits.

My boss purchased a Z4, with all the options ticked, he paid $14,990 EXTRA. This is where RESALE value will be sh*t, because it is over priced, but with Ford's resale value on upgrades - because they are cheap, they will sell only for 20% less.

I have driven all cars in the sub 200k mark, and I can tell you now that each car has its advantages and disadvantages and for an all rounder the XR6T is quiet good.

Now, going back ON TRACK with what the original thread was about.

If I was in your position, I would wait for the Typhoon to come out, go with it, keep it stock for 6 months, wait for APS or Nizpro to get their hands on one, let them work it then come out with the different kits and you'll be pulling almost double the XR6T's power (not litrelly but you get what I mean).

At the end of the day, if you buy a Typhoon you need to remember its FPV and resale value will be better.... why?

an FVP TYPHOON for $50,000 - $52,000 Second hand 5,000km

or an XR6T for $38,000 - $40,000 Second hand? 35,000km

I'm certain I'd choose the Typhoon if I had the cash.

At the end of the day, its a Falcon vs FVP.

Although having said all this, I raised my eye brows when a very good source inside Ford told me the XR6T will be a lot easier to modify then the Typhoon, and all in all the XR6T will still beat the Typhoon, with the SMALLEST of modifications (Exhaust + air filter).

Regards,

G

[Falchoon]

Phido is entitled to his opinion as much as anyone else here, be pretty boring if we all wanted exactly the same things out of a car.

If history is anything to go by the FPV vehicle will probably be the one with the lower resale value (remember T-Series?). But it's about the package anyway, not necessarily which car is faster down the dragstrip. If you think the Typhoon has the looks, performance and features you want then buy it, and enjoy it. I'm sure it will be a great car. If you think an optioned up, chipped up XR6T is for you then buy that, they are great cars too. DOesn't matter what car you buy you are pretty much guranteed to loose money when it comes time to trade, doesn't matter if it's a Beemer or a Barina.

[ducatijb]

  Phido said:

Infact even the GT-P doesn't get premium sound standard! I'm pretty sure it doesn't come with climate control either. I highly doubt they are going to throw all that into the Typhoon.

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.339&parent_id=334

Your wrong about this anyway.... :banghead: