plonky The Bionic Man - half man-half titanium Member 1,766 Member For: 21y 9m 17d Location: Dodge Scat Pack Posted 31/08/04 06:45 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 06:45 AM Remember that 'social justice' or social engineering' costs money and that money is the taxpayers money.It is not the Government's money, it is our money. Ultimately we are voting for the people that do the best job with our money.If voting for the Government means that as individuals we can continue to live the lifestyle that we have then vote for them.If voting for the Opposition means that OUR money is being spent on things that are important to us (such free everything and a permanent crutch for those that refuse to walk) then vote for the them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newxr Member 279 Member For: 20y 9m 11d Posted 31/08/04 06:48 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 06:48 AM It is a nightmare to do returns for BAS and other stuff but at least the tax is transparent. I run my own business so I can confirm the BAS - my accountant loves me I just paid my lawnmower man $30 cash - no reciept. GST is very TRANSPARENT - I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie XR6 Member 190 Member For: 21y 9m 21d Location: Sydney Posted 31/08/04 07:10 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 07:10 AM The GST may be seen but Liberals didn't abolish a lot of the old taxes. So on many items we are paying tax on top of tax.Where do you think this surplus has come from? We are more taxed than ever.I still pay 47c in the dollar same as the last Government. God help us when Costello takes over. That smirking arrogant twit will ruin the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 3m 16d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 31/08/04 07:17 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 07:17 AM My 2c worth :DSorry to correct you mate, but remember the libs introduced a GST, so that's actually going to be your 2.2c worth. Sorry Ken but you're wrong. The GST is NOT allowed to be added on - so your 2c worth, after paying Mr (dis)honest Johnny Howard is now only 1.82c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhawk ....Time to lay this fairytale aside...... Donating Members 2,657 Member For: 21y 10m 16d Gender: Male Location: In the Ferry on the River Styx, not getting out just yet! Posted 31/08/04 07:17 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 07:17 AM I have read all the posts on this thread fully, which is about a first (except for the GT basher ones ). And it's good to see healthy debate and expression of opinions, and how passionate we are about this great country and how it should be runSomehow having Abbot and Costello running this country (which it will be in the not too distant future) kind of sums it up for me....is there some kind of hidden, sublime cosmic (comic) warning here.I have been a Labour voter all my life, if I win a big lotto jackpot or some unknown long lost billionaire relative leaves me heaps then I'll vote Liberal. Although the 'new' Labour is not the working mans' party it once was it is still the better option if you have a social concience, and want some semblance of a fair go for all. My 2.2 cents worth, which will buy me diddly squat now!!! not even 1/2 a Cobber!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo6man Lifetime Members 4,084 Member For: 22y 3m 16d Gender: Male Location: South Coast NSW Posted 31/08/04 07:20 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 07:20 AM It might be 2c plus GST, but it isn't 2c plus Sales tax plus GST.Let us not forget that a whole lot of things are incredibly cheaper since the abolition of a multitude of taxes and replaced with a flat 10% GST.It is a nightmare to do returns for BAS and other stuff but at least the tax is transparent.Have a look at your grocery bill and see how much GST you pay.....you will realise that the tax can now be seen. I'm sorry to see that an otherwise generally balanced individual has been politically brainwashed. I understand that you firmly believe those things Plonky but it is sad really that you do ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 21y 10m 9d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 31/08/04 07:33 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 07:33 AM I'm sorry to see that an otherwise generally balanced individual has been politically brainwashed. If he is brainwashed, he certainly not alone.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 21y 11m 26d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 31/08/04 08:19 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 08:19 AM Ive got much more important things to worry about on that weekend. Who will win the Top 10 shootout, who will supply me with tinnies, who's house for the BBQ, what lap will I pass out on, id much rather stress about those important topics than friggin politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 5m 7d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 31/08/04 08:55 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 08:55 AM Little Johnny Howard.... Can't wait to send Australia Broke" Mark Latham..... Pauline Hanson.... JB I am busy surfing the forums trying to cath up and I stumble across this morsal.To say I am dissapointed is an understatement You filfy beast. Wouldn't waste a bag of rocks ( read stones) on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 5m 7d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 31/08/04 09:10 AM Share Posted 31/08/04 09:10 AM It might be 2c plus GST, but it isn't 2c plus Sales tax plus GST.Let us not forget that a whole lot of things are incredibly cheaper since the abolition of a multitude of taxes and replaced with a flat 10% GST.It is a nightmare to do returns for BAS and other stuff but at least the tax is transparent.Have a look at your grocery bill and see how much GST you pay.....you will realise that the tax can now be seen. Plonky is right. If you consider that a lot of the stuff in your trolley at the Supermarket ( commodities) used to attract a Wholesale tax rate of 22% , with GST of 10% we were somewhat better off. That is until the ugly sisters of Woolworts Ltd and Coles Myer Ltd went the sneak in upping retail prices over time to there previous levels and pocketing the difference.Australia has the most concentrated retail trade on the planet and the key protagonists know it . ing bully boys the both of em. Now where is my speed dial to Graeme Samuels.Whilst ranting on this thread ,who is going to do the honourable thing with income tax and stop punishing hard earned success and rewarding the growing number of malingerers in society. Flat rate tax for everyone me thinks is proportionally fair reward for effort At least Joh had one good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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