Who will win on Oct 9th?

[stardust]

The federal Government doesnt have the 'direct' power, under the Constitution, to legislate against high powered vehicles, and they wont bother, its a state issue

So tell me why they stopped making high powered cars in 1972 in all states at the same time ?

Ken

[Turbo6man]

Let's just hope they don't have to rely on Family First in the Senate. High powered vehicles roaming the streets can't be very family-friendly can it? Heaven knows what other crap they will try and tie in with the family theme

The federal Government doesnt have the 'direct' power, under the Constitution, to legislate against high powered vehicles, and they wont bother, its a state issue

Of course they do - it's called the Australian Design Rules and they can make a new rule encompassing anything they like.

In 1972 they simply told the car companies that if the power war continued they wouldn't buy any more cars from them. All car companies like govt contracts so ...

[aniken]

Let's just hope they don't have to rely on Family First in the Senate. High powered vehicles roaming the streets can't be very family-friendly can it? Heaven knows what other crap they will try and tie in with the family theme

The federal Government doesnt have the 'direct' power, under the Constitution, to legislate against high powered vehicles, and they wont bother, its a state issue

They could bother if it meant getting the vote of Family First to pass their legislation. There are more means than direct power too - taxes, imports, interstate trade to name a few. Lawyers can get very creative if needs be.

Anyway, the main point was, I think we could end up with some very bad policy in the next 3 years if the government has to rely on the votes of Family First in the Senate to get things through.

[Lumpen]

I really can't see how Australians are GREEDY enough to value their own pocket over human rights as a whole and even social order in our OWN country with our OWN citizens...

How can people ally themselves with torturers and jailers of children? Disrespecting the geneva convention and denying equitable healthcare and seondary/tertiary education while being the highest taxed nation in the first world just to save themselves in the short term on their mortgage.

Personally I filled out all 78 on the senate ticket and took great fun in placing them Liberals/Nationals last, even Fred Nile got in ahead of them!

[bara]

I really can't see how Australians are GREEDY enough to value their own pocket over human rights as a whole and even social order in our OWN country with our OWN citizens...

How can people ally themselves with torturers and jailers of children? Disrespecting the geneva convention and denying equitable healthcare and seondary/tertiary education while being the highest taxed nation in the first world just to save themselves in the short term on their mortgage.

So much wrong with all that, it's hard to know where to start.....

[Geeseman]

and denying equitable healthcare and seondary/tertiary education while being the highest taxed nation in the first world

The states control the health system at the grass roots level and are given the money to fund it from the GST - The GST which has happened to generate the highest taxes in history becuase of the state of the strong economy. The GST which funds are distributed to the states for use in areas such as health. Labour in NSW promised to half waiting lists in their last election. Now some time on they are probably double what they were before.

[ktford]

Personally I had great fun in placing them Liberals/Nationals last, even Fred Nile got in ahead of them!

how to waste an hour of my life by Lumpen Portaloo

Well take it up the arse Brendan cause there looking every minute more like holding all the balls.

Scotty

p.s. Labour voters take it anally doo dah doo dah.

[Blown BA]

Either way LABOUR or LIBERAL they will both srew you up the arse Scotty one way or the other :lol: .........with me who gives a

......Go ONE NATION :lol:

[Lumpen]

Personally I had great fun in placing them Liberals/Nationals last, even Fred Nile got in ahead of them!

how to waste an hour of my life by Lumpen Portaloo

Well take it up the arse Brendan cause there looking every minute more like holding all the balls.

Scotty

p.s. Labour voters take it anally doo dah doo dah.

I don't think it was a waste of my time at all scotty, I actually think that the people who just voted without thinking to (falsely) protect their mortgage or voted whoever their papa voted for wasted their time not me.

Then again I shouldn't be surprised that a real estate agent would be a vehrment supported of the liberal party....for better or for worse...

[Lumpen]

and denying equitable healthcare and seondary/tertiary education while being the highest taxed nation in the first world

The states control the health system at the grass roots level and are given the money to fund it from the GST - The GST which has happened to generate the highest taxes in history becuase of the state of the strong economy. The GST which funds are distributed to the states for use in areas such as health. Labour in NSW promised to half waiting lists in their last election. Now some time on they are probably double what they were before.

I was talking more on the grand scale of Medicare and national distribution of funding rather than a state level, though I find it strange that people seem to forget how Messers Howard and Co seem to threaten to block supply to the states if they don't do what the government wants, and jump up and down and call it a communist labor conspiracy and it's all the left's fault...Pahh

If the health system is so equitable, why do I have to wait 2 weeks on for a checkup with my local doctor (I refuse private healthcare) while someone with private can get in practically immediately? Why are there huge waiting lists and 4 and 5 hours waits in PUBLIC emergency wards, but private hospitals (with their added help from the government) are running at huge profits?

Also, don't get me started on Carr, he is as far removed from the Labor party as you can get, he is nothing but a mealy mouthed economist sycophant that at a best rate would be a secretary for the liberal party. He, like almost all leaders of the Labor Party (State and Federal) since the split with Chifely and the Moral Rearmament Rats have all be traitors to the real ideals of labour...