Sniffer Dogs on the street and in night clubs

[OwnaXR6T]

I went out on Friday night, I have heard of cops getting round with sniffer dogs befor but had never seen them, Im not one to really take drugs much, but I do admit to experimenting when young and I occasionally don't mind a odd joint with friends, but what I can say is I am totally apalled that police feel the need to walk around our streets with sniffer dogs, busting poor inocent people who have not done anything wrong other than indulge in recrteational drugs on the weekend!!! How on earth is this benifiting the community, Im sure they don't catch any dealers using this tecnique and I find it a total invasion of our privacy!!

On friday night I was out and saw them in action A heap of cops seaching kids out the front of a night club, and for what a joint or a pill they might take, what a joke....... Im disgusted how this is even allowed.

There are a time and a place for sniffer dogs and that's at airports and when police search real suspected drug dealers. Not youth at a night club.......

[Lightning]

I guess it's called supply and demand. Get rid of the demand and the supply then doesn't have anywhere to sell it to. I've heard horror stories about the amount of money spent by the 'recreational' drug market.

[BA_Turbs]

  OwnaXR6T said:

I am totally apalled that police feel the need to walk around our streets with sniffer dogs, busting poor inocent people who have not done anything wrong other than indulge in recrteational drugs on the weekend!!!

There is nothing innocent about recreational drugs. Cannabis can be an exception, if you grow your own plants, but otherwise people using illict drugs, whether it be a small amount or a lot, are still feeding a chain right up to the drug dealers at the top. That little white pill that gets bought for $30 or $40 has been through a chain of 5 people, and if its a good one, come all the was from Europe. Seems innocent at the bottom, but regardless of the frequency of use, using illicet drugs SUPPORTS A DRUG DEALER. Illegal drugs do not come from fairies, charity groups or chemists, they come from drug dealers and cooks.

How would you like your house burnt down becuase your neighbour was an inexperienced speed cook and couldn't cook control his mix? Not innocent then is it.

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On friday night I was out and saw them in action A heap of cops seaching kids out the front of a night club, and for what a joint or a pill they might take, what a joke....... Im disgusted how this is even allowed.

The police dogs do not bust innocent people either, they merely walk up and sit next to a person that has drugs in their pocket. No barking, no carry on, they just sit. I was involved in the trial of these dogs in Victoria. They are extremely well trained. In a room with 55 people in it they could tell who had amphetes int heir pocket, and could tell who had had them in their pocket recently. The dog handler can generally tell the difference fromthe way the dog behaves. Also, police need to form "reasonable grounds" before searching someone under the provisions of the Drugs, Poisons & Controlled Substances Act. A drug sniffer dog sitting next to someone is reasonable grounds. The searches are all therefore lawful.

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There are a time and a place for sniffer dogs and that's at airports and when police search real suspected drug dealers. Not youth at a night club.......

There needs to be a diversified approach to combating drugs. Making silly statement s like "catch the dealers at the airport" is a single approach. Catching the users, as well as having areas in the police force such as the Major Drug Investigation Unit to investigate the people at the top of the chain is the best approach. Ignoring weekend use of amphetes will just result in more people's DVDs getting stolen and more pensioners having their money stolen at ATMs (By the innocent drug users).

[sbr79]

NO No NO

E's and Pot somehow don't re;ate to the B& E's its the Heroin addicts, the general drop outs of the world.

People in a Nightclub having an E or drinking, what ever they probably look foward to that night all week while busting there ass for someone elses wealthy bank account. If cops are serious about catching Crims and Druggies go into the Lower Class suburbs and bust them. Jesus we grow up knowing where these areas are, so why ignore the fact that's where the dealers, crims cooks etc live.

Better still instead of spending money on cops busting people with pot, why not use that police power to find Daniel the 10yr old from the Sunshine Coast, BUT can't do that police can't make money out of missing people.

This world is going to turn on its self oneday, to many people have been given the right to intrude too much on other peoples life. If you think this statement is wrong , well give me your address, I will come on over walk on in and make myself at home, then give your address to a friend, who will do the same, then he will give it to his friend who come on over and do the same......then we will see how you feel when everyone seems to just walk on in and intrude on your life. You would soon see red and retaleate.

[sixfan]

If it worries you, just do as they suggested on that ABC show life support, get a tolerant dog and keep your stash up it's bum. No suspicion if they see one dog sniffing anothers bum.....

[BA_Turbs]

  sbr79 said:

NO No NO

E's and Pot somehow don't re;ate to the B& E's its the Heroin addicts, the general drop outs of the world.

People in a Nightclub having an E or drinking, what ever they probably look foward to that night all week while busting there ass for someone elses wealthy bank account.

All right, so if buying and using Es is not sustaining the drug trade, where do Es come from?

[sbr79]

WHO cares where they come from, sooner or later they will slip up and they'll be caught, in the meantime, stop using money to try and make them slip up, instead all ou do is make them smarter. Anyway the point is who are you and anyone else to tell people what they can and can't put in their mouth. This is what I mean about intrusion.

I am not against people who don't like drugs, but they need to stop pushing there view point on to others who might have one every blue moon. As for the hradcore users, like I said it ain't unknown to police where they live, so go sniff there not in town where most hard working decent people go to R & R after a hard weeks work.

The gorvernment only pursue dealers , because of the income they make without coughing up any tax money, if they really cared about the people who use them, well they wouldn't let the people be over worked in this country for little money, and would fix all problems rather than make excuses for them. Drugs aren't the problem , its the politians.

I haven't used drugs for many years. but I can't see why others should be penalised for the occassional use.

[turb06]

I dont see how ranting about police trying to stop something that is illegal and attributes to crime is warranted. Its like modding your T and having warranty claim problems. IF YOU PLAY YOU PAY. I bet your tune will change if your house is burgled by a junkie stealing sh*t to get the next fix, bet they started out taking recreational drugs too.

I say put more of them on the streets.

Dazza.

[geea]

I own and run clubs and have done for a long time. Watching the affects of recreational drugs first hand whilst sober and un affected by drugs ain't pretty. I don't have a problem with people using different substances to change their state of mind. The problem I have with the whole drug scene is you never really know what your taking unless you have made it yourself. The people that have taken an "E" or similar don't cause problems, it's when they have taken something that isn't what it was supposed to be that the problems start. Watching people passed out with their eyes rolled round in their head ain't pretty. Watching their concerned friends making phone calls and trying to find out what was in the pills is worse as they have usually taken the same thing.

These recreational drugs are what is fueling the underworld wars at the moment. Its something like a $5,000,000,000.00 a year industry that people are prepared to kill for to maintain their share. If the government is unable to control the criminals that are behind it all they should enter the market themselves and sell it at much cheaper prices and make sure that its safe. This would remove the criminal element and also the risk of a bad"trip".

Just my thoughts, you can choose to agree or not its up to you.

Geea.

[Guest]

Ere ere Dazza I got burgled the other day by some fcuking skumm at 5 in the morning,we wondered why the dog barked and pushed at the fence at 5 am.

When I went out at 7am the dogs are all funny,bull was pumped,so I look around and sure enough,the shadecloth cut with a knife,a hole big enough for skumm to get in,srupid terd.

He cut his way into the fernery to find fcuken FERNS,you could see one foot print only,so had alook,only to see ferns etc,snuck around the side of the fernery only to find that's where the dogs sleep.

You could see where it flew over the fence,lucky for him the capri my son is fixing up was pushed in the way of the dogs,normally its not and Im sure the mutts would have been at him quicker.

Got the cops in ,and they said this is going on every day,fcuking skumm looking for dope,SA is the dope capital of OZ

If I go and put up barbed wire etc,Im the one in the sh!t if the skum cut them selves

Johnny takes my guns off me,not allowed to touch a crim,not enough cops,not tough enough laws,not enough sniffer dogs,bring back the rope and hang all the thieving shumm heads

vik