APS and legalities

[sbr79]

Hey lara everything I said makes sense to someone who understands all the road rules, and not just the ones shown on TV commercials , like the one rule you know, DON"T SPEED. Mate do you live your life through a camera, you talk as if what was fdone in this video is a one off, WAKE UP take a look around you , people are breaking road rules every 10 meters, YOU DON"T have to speed to kill people, DOES THJAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU.

So if you don't like what you see in the video, fair enough, BUT to talk as if it were the only road rule broken. So LARA have you written a letter to Mitsubishi, they seem to be encouraging kids to still magnas and drive them on a bush track at 200km/hr, because they are apparently faster than FORDS OR HOLDENS, or that kid in the Mazda ad ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM, is that your long lost cousin, or a banished family member because they like to speed every now and then.

Oh 1 more quick question, Do you drive a FORD XR6, T or 8, if so why did you buy it if you never put your foot down every now and then, I heard the GETZ can get you from A to B at the speed limit. Funny how Police use FORDs and Holdens coz they are fast and they use them that way even at times when it is not needed like to getting through amber lights, good example hey, could have killed someone, SORRY I didn't film that one for you, seems you need the video footage before you comment on it.

I like this thread its FUN

[Ezy10z]

The response of some people in here with regards to those videos has been appalling.

The say young people are a danger to the road, well after watching the videos the driver of that car was far from young; in fact he looks old enough to have more sense.

However had it been a young person, they would have been bagged and called irresponsible. It is difficult to believe that a company would perform such a childish act and then place it on the internet for all to see.

The fact remains the same, what was done was illegal. It did endanger lives of innocent people. It can be talked up and made out to be so great, wow a guy did illegal speeds on a public road, breaking road rules and because there was no police car there it was alright.

That’s how accidents happen, people blatantly having no respect for the road rules and thinking they are above the law.

I am not using this as a way to put down aps in anyway, I would have the same response no matter what fool did it.

I just hope when someone goes and does the same thing and if they are not as lucky as aps were on that day and kill innocent people, that you are all as supportive of them.

Don’t kid yourselves it was a foolish thing to do on a public road end of story.

I take it you wont have any phase 1,2, or 3 mods ??? or maybe just the fluffy dice !!! :lol:

Robbie.

[xrdreaming]

Trumpy I think you have exceeded the bag limit on this one. Better start throwing some of us back in

[stardust]

Everyone ask yourselves since getting your T or N/A or 8 etc

Have you not once put your foot down and gone over the speed limit ??

Never taken off with a bit of wheel spin?

Never gone through a red light?

Or breached any of the 1000 or so road rules ?

If you have, then you have no reason to complain about the video as your action on the road is no different to the video.

Sounds like some people here need to go watch Neighbours or Days of our Lives

Ken

[plonky]

Haven't seen the video (probably won't even bother) however I might make a few comments.

A vehicle manufacturer/aftermarket tuner has the responsibility to himself to provide the best product that he can make in terms of sales and reputation. It is up to the consumer to determine whether the value of that product can be determined and therefore the product is desirable or not.

It is the INDIVIDUAL who determines how he will use that product. If I want to buy a Mustang Cobra and drive it as hard/safely as I want, then that is up to me. It is not up to the Ford Motor Company to predetermine how I should drive my car, though FoMoCo helps me in a number of ways by providing great brakes, great handling, awesome power delivery and a number of active/passive safety features.

I am also mindful that there are laws (based upon the community expectation) that I should obey. These include driving at particular speeds, driving in a particular fashion etc. Now I am totally opposed to cretins chucking burnouts in crowded streets or in residential areas, but have no problem with a good safe piece of road being used for enjoyment. That would depend on the individual situation including traffic density, road conditions, car condition and driver ability.

Mature, reasonable people who have common sense already display attributes that others seem to want to force onto everybody else.

Any self appointed group that dictates morality smacks of censorship and narrow mindedness to their own ideals. The Pedestrian Council springs to mind.

Now if a company wants to promote the benefits of its product then all power to them. If I was spending my money on vehicle enhancements I would be happy to see evidence of how good it is.

The product itself obviously conforms to all relevant ADR's and is legal to be fitted to cars used on public roads.

If the driver depicted in the video is using the car to its maximum potential, and at the same time is breaking road rules, then the responsibility rests with the driver. The mere fitment of the product does not mean that the car is driven in this way all of the time.

A Porsche Turbo has the same ability to be driven in the same way, however it is up to the individual in how he drives the car. Porsche promote their cars in a different way (Carrera Cup series) because they have the money to be able to do that.

I consider that some people should think through this rationally.

It is the individual who should be responsible, not the manufacturer and any argument that craps on about Duty of Care fails to realise that the abrogation of responsibility from the individual to be taken over by the State/group smacks of Communism/Socialism/Social engineering.

[sbr79]

Here here.

Stardust you are on the money mate.

we are all human and enjoy an adrenalin rush every now and then (not all the time), that's why we buy these sports cars. Lets face it if these cars were better on fuel and more family friendly then there wouldn't be the XT or territory, JUST THE XR range.

Even some policemans like fast cars hey PLONKY? UHHAHH, can't help falling in love....with my car.

Hey Stardust wanna come over and watch Passions, or shall we just drive around in the country with a camera.hehehehehe

Hey PLONKY why is it igringe at so many Policemen, but with you I am just awstruck and can't help but respect everyting you say.. You would have to come close to being one of my idols in life, Sounds corny but its true. You Uphold the law , but keep your mind open to the fact that sometimes the world becomes obbsessed with rules and boudaries, taking away your right to an individual life and gives birth to nothing more than a mere existence to provide wealth and opportunity to people in power with large superannuation payouts and the overinflated backbooks courtesy of my 70 hours of legalised slavery under the Governments conditions of Employment allowing mere citizens to be exploited for the sake of COMMRADE JOHN HOWARD and his KGB operatives within the states police forces.

he helps me out in times of need.

[Guest Lara]

Hey lara everything I said makes sense to someone who understands all the road rules, and not just the ones shown on TV commercials , like the one rule you know, DON"T SPEED. Mate do you live your life through a camera, you talk as if what was fdone in this video is a one off, WAKE UP take a look around you , people are breaking road rules every 10 meters, YOU DON"T have to speed to kill people, DOES THJAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU.

So if you don't like what you see in the video, fair enough, BUT to talk as if it were the only road rule broken. So LARA have you written a letter to Mitsubishi, they seem to be encouraging kids to still magnas and drive them on a bush track at 200km/hr, because they are apparently faster than FORDS OR HOLDENS, or that kid in the Mazda ad ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM, is that your long lost cousin, or a banished family member because they like to speed every now and then.

Oh 1 more quick question, Do you drive a FORD XR6, T or 8, if so why did you buy it if you never put your foot down every now and then, I heard the GETZ can get you from A to B at the speed limit. Funny how Police use FORDs and Holdens coz they are fast and they use them that way even at times when it is not needed like to getting through amber lights, good example hey, could have killed someone, SORRY I didn't film that one for you, seems you need the video footage before you comment on it.

I like this thread its FUN

Yes I do own a BA and yes I am getting mods done to it, and no I am not stupid enough to drive like a fool on public roads.

I am well aware people break road rules every day that does not condone the stupidity of this particular person. This thread was not about all the other fools on the road, just this one in particular.

All I was stating was! It seems very hypocritical that a company would enforce keeping a car illegal and then perform a totally irresponsible act and to add insult to injury tape it and upload it to their company’s website. (Oh so very professional NOT!)

What ever way you look at it, it is breaking the law, placing innocent lives in danger.

Where does it stop before you have the balls to say “yes it was dangerous” where does it stop? Do we wait until someone is killed and then say, oh sorry! But the Asian’s in Brisbane drive like idiots as well.

But in saying that, I can see a large majority of this forum are fan boys and I am wasting my time.

[sbr79]

No LARA,

we are not fan boys we are all MOTORISTS. And if you single out this one video, then stick your head back in the sand. We know what point you are making but you forget that it is filmed on a country road, not in front of a school or crowded mall. If it were to be filmed on a race track it would be false advertising, its a road car not a god dam supercar. SO why are you getting mods done then. If you never put your foot down every now and then. That money could be used by you to fund the ANTI APS video foundation. Or is themopd you are having done the chopping in half of your engine block from a 6 cylinder to a 3 cylinder, so you are not tempted to contradict yourself.

And the video is showing the ability of the aps mods, not the legallity of the car

Speeding is a road rule....

Keeping your car leagal is a Transport Department Regulation.

You seem to have mixed the two points together, you must have to much time to think at 50km/hr, Maybe they can increase the speed limit so we aren't driving around down at a speed which allows us to drift off into the world of daydreams and Philosophical deluge.

Oh this thread just keeps getting better, THANK YOU APS

CANT GET ENOUGH OF THIS

[OwnaXR6T]

Lara, you are one of these really intolerable people who probably thinks double demerit points is a good idea, 50km/h zones are a good idea and you probably think that 110km/h is fast enough on the highway.

two words shut up.

one other thing, do you have any go fast mods?

[Guest Lara]