WSID - private track booking

[Geeseman]

Firstly, to address the first part of your response, I never said you were critical of aps, I said you appear to have an issue with them. My basis for this assumption is your BOLDED response were you were insulting and totally out of line with your suggestion and statements.

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This may or maynot have been aimed at me. Either way how was it constructive in helping Jules answer his question. It wasn't. What was the point of mentioning this what did you stand to gain besides a few more APS brownie points.

Why must my goal be to help Julian? I’m sure that if APS or Big mick want to answer they may do so. My point was to clarify the possibility that times at the drags may be a result of people doing more than simply re-tuning their cars. Perhaps this can help julian understand why others may be getting good times as well. As for your suggestion that im out for brownie points, this goes to strengthen my assumption at the beginning of this post.

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What I don't understand and nodoubt you wont enlighten us is this. You have been possibly the most vocally unhappy APS customer on the forum. When you were upgrading you had a few threads going about how unhappy you were and I know that you had Nizpro gear lined up.

Again, if you don’t like what I have done there is little I can do to solve your problem. At the time of my upgrade I had a single thread going which I have had my posts removed because I felt it was counterproductive to solving both my problems and the possible business of aps stockists who had nothing to do with the matter in the first place. As explained my methods were not a good way of going about solving the situation and now aps and I can move on and put that issue behind us. We both have and I don’t see why others should dwell on it…

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Why after all this do you still act as an APS liason officer.

Craig, this is the mentality that results in most of the wars we see on this forum today. I didn’t even mention them, nor you, or nizpro or anything, but clearly it doesn’t take much to set the flame alight and get people going. Labeling me an aps liason office is narrow minded, one eyed and very ignorant of the real situation. In this thread I didn’t even mention APS and in others I have just spoken of my latest upgrades. If anything my current position is a reflection of the steps my tuner has taken to ensure Im happy with my car and its mods. Surely anyone who is happy with their property is allowed to speak their opinion of it?

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Are you aware that even after 6 pages APS still haven't offered Jules an answer, either here or in person.

Why should they? You can’t seriously expect them to make public any secrets that they may or may not have.

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Now before you pick this thread apart in that annoying way you have, why dont you go through my 1999 posts and find all the ones where I have critisized APS's products or results and compare them with the times you have and see which is the longer list.

I don’t see how I’m being annoying. Here you’ve come clean on how your old car did its times which is good for anyone considering following your path (which you have laid out in a large thread on this forum) and wants to know all aspects involved. As I said, I didn’t name names, or anything of the sort.

As for searching for posts, I haven't the time or inclination. I think what this thread has unfortunately turned into speaks for itself.

[JB]

  geea said:

  Geeseman said:

  xr6ikness said:

Drag racing is easy when your sitting in the grandstand with your dyno sheet :lol:

Yes, but at least I have a dyno sheet :o

Ok Steve, I've had enough. Myself and nodoubt other members have assisted you when asked. I personally have tried to help you as much as I can regarding the problems you were having with your injectors. Specifically the fact that you paid $1350 for them and thought that you ahd been ripped off, which you were. For no reason you have entered this thread and started defending APS and their products even when the arguement had nothing to do with you. There were resonable questions asked by White Tee regarding why one Phase II should be so much faster than all the rest. I tried to offer explanations for this and didn't critisize anyone. You decided to join in and support APS even though no one was attcking them. APS or Big Mick never saw fit to answer these questions. Big Mick, cause he probably never saw them and APS, Who knows why. You decided that it would be prudent to have a go at me and my methods. I can wear that no problem. Then you decide to have a go at Jeff, fair enough but keep it above the belt. What you said was not funny and was out of line. Jeff is a top bloke in a temporary situation and what you said was uncalled for.

Here it is straight. All the 1/4 times my car got at the drags after I had the injectors changed, had the benefit of a gutted cat. This mod cost nothing and was used to save me having to change valve springs, which I couldn't afford. If anyone asked me personally about my mods they were told this. Ask Scotty or JB to name 2.

Now to you.

WHY HAVE YOU CONTINUALLY LET APS GIVE IT TO YOU UP THE ARSE THEN STILL SUPPORT THEM UNCONDITIONALLY. TWICE THAT I KNOW OF, AND POSSIBLY MANY MORE I DONT, APS HAVE SCREWED YOU OVER. YET SOON AFTER YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THEM, USUALLY WHEN YOU ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION.

ITS SORT OF LIKE LETTING APS BUTT *beep* YOU WITH A PINEAPPLE THEN SAYING THANKS. WHATS WITH THIS.

WHAT SORT OF BEHIND THE SCENES DEALS HAVE YOU BEEN MAKING WITH APS TO CAUSE THE ABOUT FACE.

MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE THIS WITH US ALL.

Geea. :o

Exactly Craig

Funny how it's always Geeseman involved in these things ins'nt it! Maybe there is a pattern here.

[JB]

  Geeseman said:

Firstly, to address the first part of your response, I never said you were critical of aps, I said you appear to have an issue with them. My basis for this assumption is your BOLDED response were you were insulting and totally out of line with your suggestion and statements.

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This may or maynot have been aimed at me. Either way how was it constructive in helping Jules answer his question. It wasn't. What was the point of mentioning this what did you stand to gain besides a few more APS brownie points.

Why must my goal be to help Julian? I’m sure that if APS or Big mick want to answer they may do so. My point was to clarify the possibility that times at the drags may be a result of people doing more than simply re-tuning their cars. Perhaps this can help julian understand why others may be getting good times as well. As for your suggestion that im out for brownie points, this goes to strengthen my assumption at the beginning of this post.

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What I don't understand and nodoubt you wont enlighten us is this. You have been possibly the most vocally unhappy APS customer on the forum. When you were upgrading you had a few threads going about how unhappy you were and I know that you had Nizpro gear lined up.

Again, if you don’t like what I have done there is little I can do to solve your problem. At the time of my upgrade I had a single thread going which I have had my posts removed because I felt it was counterproductive to solving both my problems and the possible business of aps stockists who had nothing to do with the matter in the first place. As explained my methods were not a good way of going about solving the situation and now aps and I can move on and put that issue behind us. We both have and I don’t see why others should dwell on it…

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Why after all this do you still act as an APS liason officer.

Craig, this is the mentality that results in most of the wars we see on this forum today. I didn’t even mention them, nor you, or nizpro or anything, but clearly it doesn’t take much to set the flame alight and get people going. Labeling me an aps liason office is narrow minded, one eyed and very ignorant of the real situation. In this thread I didn’t even mention APS and in others I have just spoken of my latest upgrades. If anything my current position is a reflection of the steps my tuner has taken to ensure Im happy with my car and its mods. Surely anyone who is happy with their property is allowed to speak their opinion of it?

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Are you aware that even after 6 pages APS still haven't offered Jules an answer, either here or in person.

Why should they? You can’t seriously expect them to make public any secrets that they may or may not have.

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Now before you pick this thread apart in that annoying way you have, why dont you go through my 1999 posts and find all the ones where I have critisized APS's products or results and compare them with the times you have and see which is the longer list.

I don’t see how I’m being annoying. Here you’ve come clean on how your old car did its times which is good for anyone considering following your path (which you have laid out in a large thread on this forum) and wants to know all aspects involved. As I said, I didn’t name names, or anything of the sort.

As for searching for posts, I haven't the time or inclination. I think what this thread has unfortunately turned into speaks for itself.

I am beggining to think people are sick and tired of being continually hassled by Geeseman and his posts, personlly I am fed up listening to his :o

Anyone got anything new to preach about? :lol:

[Blown BA]

  JB said:

I am beggining to think people are sick and tired of being continually hassled by Geeseman and his posts, personlly I am fed up listening to his :o

Anyone got anything new to preach about? :lol:

Yeh JB...your wife in the pic is looking good :o

And your sandles are sexy :lol:

[JB]

  Blown BA said:

  JB said:

I am beggining to think people are sick and tired of being continually hassled by Geeseman and his posts, personlly I am fed up listening to his  :o

Anyone got anything new to preach about? :lol:

Yeh JB...your wife in the pic is looking good :o

And your sandles are sexy :lol:

Yeah she's managed to shed a few kilos george.

BTW your missus loves my sandles!

[Blown BA]

  JB said:

  Blown BA said:

  JB said:

I am beggining to think people are sick and tired of being continually hassled by Geeseman and his posts, personlly I am fed up listening to his  :o

Anyone got anything new to preach about? :lol:

Yeh JB...your wife in the pic is looking good :o

And your sandles are sexy :lol:

Yeah she's managed to shed a few kilos george.

BTW your missus loves my sandles!

:o

[Geeseman]

  JB said:

I am beggining to think people are sick and tired of being continually hassled by Geeseman and his posts, personlly I am fed up listening to his

Please, enlighten me as to the wisdom of your post as to me it makes no sense.

Who is it that I have hassled?

One wonders if you have bothered to read this thread.

[JB]

Not a total matter of hassle, but more a repetition of the same rubbish, if you cannot work it out then no-one can help you.

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.ph...pic=12877&st=50

Just seems to be a recurring boring message.................

[Geeseman]

  JB said:

Not a total matter of hassle, but more a repetition of the same rubbish, if you cannot work it out then no-one can help you.......

Firstly, what does AVO have to do with this?

Secondly, in that thread you conceeded to points I had made and we agreed to agree. Thirdly, I wasn't even talking about APS stuff.

Given your ridiculous guideliness for repitition, I should be holding you up in every thread you post for anything you write and labelling it as

Well done JB

[ducatijb]

WSID - private track booking.... that's what the thread was about I think..

Julian start your own thread....