WSID - private track booking

[DrewBytes]

  ducatijb said:

DrewBytes...whilst I am no commie lover,you have one of the better ones, a very nice blown red SS wagon with a sh!tload of grunt

Thanks mate, but she ain't blown no more, she's stroked I was happy with my 12.2 at 119.9 mph. Bummer my clutch went just before lunch, really wanted an 11 out of her in full street trim.

[Buf-Phoon]

Guys

I am keen to bench my T against other phase 2 APS kitted vehicles( not Hybrids).

What I want to establish is the variances/ relationship between RWKW, geography , day or night times, 60' times will also be of assistance.

Full street trim times only , no racing fuel , slicks , no race tunes etc = pure stock APS phase 2 only.

Personally I think my T goes OK , I have only run in warm humid conditions so the info is important from a statistical POV.

Reason I ask = I hear of low 12s in the other states with less RWKW and want to establish what it is I am/ my tuner doing wrong ........if anything or is it just ambient conditions.

For context I am pulling 2.09 60' and ET speed around 114 MPH delivering a flat 12.7 sec pass, so I am struggling with some of the times posted as my car is obviously making very good power and the 60' is not complete

Look forward to your responses as something aint adding up for me

Thanks

WT

[geea]

  WhiteTee said:

Guys

I am keen to bench my T against other phase 2 APS kitted vehicles( not Hybrids).

What I want to establish is the variances/ relationship between RWKW, geography , day or night times, 60' times will also be of assistance.

Full street trim times only , no racing fuel , slicks , no race tunes etc = pure stock APS phase 2 only.

Personally I think my T goes OK , I have only run in warm humid conditions so the info is important from a statistical POV.

Reason I ask = I hear of low 12s in the other states with less RWKW and want to establish what it is I am/ my tuner doing wrong ........if anything or is it just ambient conditions.

For context I am pulling 2.09 60' and ET speed around 114 MPH delivering a flat 12.7 sec pass, so I am struggling with some of the times posted as my car is obviously making very good power and the 60' is not complete

Look forward to your responses as something aint adding up for me

Thanks

WT

The 60' would be part of it. Also the track condition too. If the track is sticky it will help both 60' and traction for the whole 1/4. I was running 12.2/12.3 with 115/116mph. This was with Boof. If the tune is conservative down low to protect the drive line this will give slower 60's and also slower times. Possibly compare dyno graphs and see if the power is coming on differently too. Maybe talk to Big Mick and see if he can get you a copy of his dyno graph to compare to your own.

Or you could always bring it down to Melbourne and I'll get you some sub 12.5's. :lol:

Geea.

[Buf-Phoon]

Craig , that is absolutely want I to establish. Big MPH V 60' times.You cant tell me that with my current 60" time and the strong MPH that mathematically we are talking level playing field here.

This has to BS large.

What you are saying is that ambient condititions = 0.5 secs or , a 60' of 2.00 or better= o.5 sec terminal speed with a termnal ET of 12.2 secs best .

Do the math , I look forward to the replies of Big Mick et al

I have the calulator at the ready , this will want to be good

[geea]

  WhiteTee said:

Craig , that is absolutely want I to establish. Big MPH V 60' times.You cant tell me that with my current 60" time and the strong MPH that mathematically we are talking level playing field here.

This has to BS large.

What you are saying is that ambient condititions = 0.5 secs or , a 60' of 2.00 or better= o.5 sec terminal speed with a termnal ET of 12.2 secs best .

Do the math , I look forward to the replies of Big Mick et al

I have the calulator at the ready , this will want to be good

I think that Mick had a little less rwkw's than your car. Mick's 60' was about the same he rarely got under 2 (possibly once). Mick's mph was huge I think 118 or over and that's on street tyres. I think 100% was getting 119 on slicks with his phase III.

Geea.

[XRTank]

For those that want to re-live the 7.2 sec pass, I have it compressed and streamed (1.2M)

[Buf-Phoon]

smallest data base / spread sheet in history. I should be finished next year Thanks to Craig for his thoughts

Question is that with less RWKW and similar 60' how do you make such huge miles per hour and signifivcantly better times with less power :o I stand by my original question, does not add up.

Could someone please explain to poor dumb ole WhiteTee how this is ?

[geea]

  WhiteTee said:

smallest data base / spread sheet in history. I should be finished next year Thanks to Craig for his thoughts

Question is that with less RWKW and similar 60' how do you make such huge miles per hour and signifivcantly better times with less power I stand by my original question, does not add up.

Could someone please explain to poor dumb ole WhiteTee how this is ?

Ok at the risk of possible warnings and other crap I'll get things moving here.

What Jules wants to know is why does Big Micks car have better results than all the other Phase II's out there. Its a fair question too.

My theory is that APS give the car a special tune for drags and retune it for normal driving afterwards. I know that Mick had "special" petrol last time at Heathcote, Dean can confirm this too.

One of APS's marketing stratigies is to be the best at the track, which by the way is a good stratigy. To do this they had to consistantly be quicker than BOOF, this wasn't easy and special things needed to be done. First it was 100% and now its Big Mick, by the way both of these guys are top blokes. 100%'s ute couldn't beat me on street tyres even with the phase III so APS had Big Mick's sedan do it instead.

I just wonder what will hapen when I get my car back from Amberley with the Xede fitted and get in the 11's on street tyres. No doubt someone down here with an APS car will come out and try beat it.

This could all be a conspricy theory but I don't think so. Maybe Peter can add his thoughts? Why else would one Phase II be so much quicker than the rest with slower 60's and also have a MPH very like a good Phase III.

Maybe this will get deleted for being to true???

Geea.

[DBOSS]

Would love to see you crack the 11's Good luck Graig

When's the car getting the Exede fitted

Cant wait JEFF

[ZAP]

Craig,

I think you are paranoid thinking APS are out to beat your times. You could get 10 Phase 2 cars together and have a 1>sec difference as it comes down to so many factors on the track. While I admire and respect your way of doing Mods, it is not main stream, so I do not think APS could careless about your track times or any other aftermarket tuners (although we all do )

I was shocked to hear about BCL's times at WSID, but is just reinforces my view about all the vairables that go into making a 1/4 mile time, its not just about the RWKW.

Cant wait to see the results of the new black beast....I had a run with it on the last cruise and it was quick and sounded great with the twin pipes