geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 11m 14d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 08/08/04 04:59 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 04:59 AM I'm doing a bit of research on rods and pistons for my "T". I have been told from different sources that above certain power levels they need to be changed.The Horsepower Factory (Amberley Auto's) suggest anything above what I have now (280rwkw's) and Nizpro think anything above 300rwkw's. I'm not sure on APS's thoughts.I'v heard of billet rods and H-beam rods. I've also heard of forged pistons of different types.It would be great if any of you guys that have done this research could give some information on the following.1) What power levels do you think the stock internals are good for.2) What sort of Rods what brand and why are they better than other options.3) What sort of pistons, what brand and why ae they the best chioce.4) What sort of valve spring and why5) What other internal parts would you suggest be changed at the same time. 6) Any other relevant thoughts you may have.These are questions that alot of us will be faced with in the near future. As we all develop more power more of us will be looking at strengthening the engine. If we can pool our knowledge it will enable us all to make more informed decissions. Hopefully this will save us all time and money. geea. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondie Firm Member Donating Members 2,924 Member For: 22y 5m 25d Location: Adelaide Hills Posted 08/08/04 09:04 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 09:04 AM From what l have seen APS dont recommend rod & piston upgrade for P3, but l could be wrong. They do off course recommend valve springs. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 22y 23d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 08/08/04 09:29 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 09:29 AM I would definitely get the rods changed if you get to or around the 300rwkw regardless of which kit/tuner you use.....the stock ones have a habit of bending at these power levels.. Definitely my next mod... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macka'sxr6t Member 1,480 Member For: 20y 10m 30d Location: Mildura Posted 08/08/04 10:09 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 10:09 AM Hi geea,I'm making some inquiries with a supplier in the States about rods & pistons. They told me that they can supply rods that are good for 1000hp. Don't know what brand as yet butI do know that they will cost $760 U.S I thinks that's just over $1000 Aus have'nt done the convesion yet. Seems a pretty good price though. Have'nt seen local prices has any one got some local prices?They want me to ring them to discuss further about pistons ect. Just got ot work out time difference.Let me know if your interested freight ect could work out cheaper for morethan 1 order.macka Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBO4LT Member 1,533 Member For: 21y 8m 8d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 08/08/04 10:28 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 10:28 AM macka said: Hi geea,I'm making some inquiries with a supplier in the States about rods & pistons. They told me that they can supply rods that are good for 1000hp. Don't know what brand as yet butI do know that they will cost $760 U.S I thinks that's just over $1000 Aus have'nt done the convesion yet. Seems a pretty good price though. Have'nt seen local prices has any one got some local prices?They want me to ring them to discuss further about pistons ect. Just got ot work out time difference.Let me know if your interested freight ect could work out cheaper for morethan 1 order.macka Have seen them adverstised on CAPA website for $1480, emailed them for info days ago but still no reply, and aps also have some available, Nizpro wont sell them seperate only as part of engine rebuild with rods and pistons and block inspection. Maybe we can organise a group buy?? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBOSS Faster than any BTA,XTC,Autotech, Nizpro and Tunehouse car Member 3,918 Member For: 21y 10m 4d Location: D SHIRE! Posted 08/08/04 10:58 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 10:58 AM TURBO4LT said: macka said: Hi geea,I'm making some inquiries with a supplier in the States about rods & pistons. They told me that they can supply rods that are good for 1000hp. Don't know what brand as yet butI do know that they will cost $760 U.S I thinks that's just over $1000 Aus have'nt done the convesion yet. Seems a pretty good price though. Have'nt seen local prices has any one got some local prices?They want me to ring them to discuss further about pistons ect. Just got ot work out time difference.Let me know if your interested freight ect could work out cheaper for morethan 1 order.mackaHave seen them adverstised on CAPA website for $1480, emailed them for info days ago but still no reply, and aps also have some available, Nizpro wont sell them seperate only as part of engine rebuild with rods and pistons and block inspection. Maybe we can organise a group buy?? Cheapest price I've been quoted is $1700 + gst so these are very good pricesI think anything over 280 rwklw the rod upgrade would definately be needed IMO C YA JEFF Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 8m 7d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 08/08/04 11:12 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 11:12 AM I am certainly contemplating what to mod next. Do I go the intercooler which will take me to around 300rwkw. But like with the install of my phase 2 I think that durability V power mods should be the first priority. There are some inklings starting to emerge that the stock rods may have some tenency to bend under higher power applicatons. Brian's strengthening internals approach may have some merit .Unfortunetely due to the relative newness of the BA we are still all learning and therefore we are all Guinea cops in terms of what the T can and cannot take in standard or modded trim Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 5m 30d Location: Sydney Posted 08/08/04 11:19 AM Share Posted 08/08/04 11:19 AM xr6ikness said: Cheapest price I've been quoted is $1700 + gst so these are very good prices That's obviously before install? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducatijb Lifetime Members 3,448 Member For: 22y 23d Gender: Male Location: sydney Posted 08/08/04 12:18 PM Share Posted 08/08/04 12:18 PM Geeseman said: xr6ikness said: Cheapest price I've been quoted is $1700 + gst so these are very good pricesThat's obviously before install? yeah that's individually wrapped up in bits of white paper..... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatV8 Artificially Aspirated Member 951 Member For: 21y 3m 15d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 08/08/04 02:05 PM Share Posted 08/08/04 02:05 PM macka said: Hi geea,I'm making some inquiries with a supplier in the States about rods & pistons. They told me that they can supply rods that are good for 1000hp. Don't know what brand as yet butI do know that they will cost $760 U.S I thinks that's just over $1000 Aus have'nt done the convesion yet. Seems a pretty good price though. Have'nt seen local prices has any one got some local prices?They want me to ring them to discuss further about pistons ect. Just got ot work out time difference.Let me know if your interested freight ect could work out cheaper for morethan 1 order.macka Hey guys, I'm over here in the states. If it helps with avoiding Johny Howard slapping his cut of tax on anything you buy from the USA as I could send stuff as private import or gift. I also have a few contacts here that could try source the parts needed at a good price. Not sure about rods and pistons etc for the BA since they would be a custom built piece since it isnt out here. Let me know I'm always floating around on this board, PM me or I am always on MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, AIM... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/12222-pistons-rods-and-other-internal-bits/#findComment-152363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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