Ford Vs Holden Ute

[Scotty Tav]

Ok guys, I have some serious questions here about the V8 utes but please no "Holdens are sh*t posts"

1. The Expensive Daewoo equivalent of the XR8 is the SS right? Is the Pursuit the equivalent of the base Maloo or the R8?

2. What is the difference between the Maloo and the R8 exactly? Are they worth the extra?

3. Are there any articles on the net about the Pursuit Vs R8?

4. Is there a board out there like this one that is Expensive Daewoo based? I would like to read about the XR Vs Maloo from their side too.

Thanks!

[obrut6]

Ls1 .com.au, try that

[-carty]

I read either motor or wheels magazine a fair while back, had an atricle on the Maloo R8 and the Pursuit, the pursuit was the bestter ute over all, it had better acceleration, handling, 1/4 times, and I think the mag also stated that the pursuit was the better deal in the 2 also, (I believe its a substancial amount cheaper then the R8)

the maloo and the R8 are different in that the r8 I think has a little more power (not totally sure on this) but it has bigger brakes, different wheels, rear spoiler, not much else I can think of off the top of my head...

I havent been in a pursuit so I cant say anything to them, but my cousin has a VY maloo R8 series 1 (260kw) and I tell ya its an awsome ute, was so smoothe, great sounding exaust (he has some custom one on) and it hugs the ground really good, grips like hell and great acceleration...

[ASNU]

  -carty said:

I read either motor or wheels magazine a fair while back, had an atricle on the Maloo R8 and the Pursuit, the pursuit was the bestter ute over all, it had better acceleration, handling, 1/4 times, and I think the mag also stated that the pursuit was the better deal in the 2 also, (I believe its a substancial amount cheaper then the R8)

the maloo and the R8 are different in that the r8 I think has a little more power (not totally sure on this) but it has bigger brakes, different wheels, rear spoiler, not much else I can think of off the top of my head...

I havent been in a pursuit so I cant say anything to them, but my cousin has a VY maloo R8 series 1 (260kw) and I tell ya its an awsome ute, was so smoothe, great sounding exaust (he has some custom one on) and it hugs the ground really good, grips like hell and great acceleration...

When I was decideing on a ute the R8 was quite abit more expensive than the standard maloo as bigger brakes and rims plus a really nice leather interior.While the R8 would be no match for a modified T ute like I have now they do have some nice incentives to buy one at the moment.

Costs $260 a week for 2 years with free serviceing and free comprehensive insurance which would usually be about $4000 a year.Free car wash then hand it over in 2 years and get a new one.Not a bad deal I think as my insurance under business use only costs a bomb.

I do like the HSV wheels and brake set up as well.Wonder if I could order a R8 with a T motor,Now then you would be cooking.

[dain]

  Scotty Tav said:

Ok guys, I have some serious questions here about the V8 utes but please no "Holdens are sh*t posts"

1. The Expensive Daewoo equivalent of the XR8 is the SS right? Is the Pursuit the equivalent of the base Maloo or the R8?

2. What is the difference between the Maloo and the R8 exactly? Are they worth the extra?

3. Are there any articles on the net about the Pursuit Vs R8?

4. Is there a board out there like this one that is Expensive Daewoo based? I would like to read about the XR Vs Maloo from their side too.

Thanks!

Scotty,

The differences between the standard and R8 is that you get different wheels, trim, brakes and a hard cover and spoiler is standard. The engine and driveline are exactly the same, not worth the extra money in my opinion.

But why bother with a v8 when you can have a blown 6!!!!!.

Dain

[YOOT]

If you are a large bloke, be prepared to not be able to move the seat back far enough in the Maloo. The cabin is smaller than the XR/FPV and you will have zero room behind the seat. At least the Ford has 400mm of spare room (unless the seat is right back and touching the window!

Holdens have coil springs and IRS which is a big bonus, but for some reason they don't deomstrate that they have any more grip or handling advantage over the XR/FPV which still run the leafs springs! Most people I tell can't believe that the XR has leafs, because it rides so smooth and has bags of grip!

In my opinion, the Holdens aren't real utes, they are two door sedans with limited traction and good looks. The Fords are real utes with tonnes of traction and way more street cred, especially the XR8 with the bulge.

As for performance, expect the Turbo to be the fastest on average out of the SS and XR8. Ofcourse the SS offers over 400hp with a tune and exhaust as does the Turbo, but the turbo will always have a massive torque advantage. The XR8 has potential but not for anywhere near as good a value as the other two.

The Pursuit is by far the quickest in stock form of them all. Even the 285kw Malloo is still slower by a decent margin, something like 0.3sec. This is because of traction, but once again the Maloo shares the same advantage of being able to offer easy HP with bolt ons for less money. Ofcourse it costs more than the Pursuit does to start with.

In summary, the Turbo will yield the best value by a very large margin. Next would be the SS, then the Pursuit, then the Maloo and finally the XR8, which is a fairly unusually placed model.

[ktford]

  rednut99 said:

If you are a large bloke, be prepared to not be able to move the seat back far enough in the Maloo. The cabin is smaller than the XR/FPV and you will have zero room behind the seat.

I was going to mention that Alex, good work. I'd pick the F250, heaps of room, grunt & as intimidating as f*ck

Scotty

[-carty]

  dain said:

  Scotty Tav said:

Ok guys, I have some serious questions here about the V8 utes but please no "Holdens are sh*t posts"

1. The Expensive Daewoo equivalent of the XR8 is the SS right? Is the Pursuit the equivalent of the base Maloo or the R8?

2. What is the difference between the Maloo and the R8 exactly? Are they worth the extra?

3. Are there any articles on the net about the Pursuit Vs R8?

4. Is there a board out there like this one that is Expensive Daewoo based? I would like to read about the XR Vs Maloo from their side too.

Thanks!

Scotty,

The differences between the standard and R8 is that you get different wheels, trim, brakes and a hard cover and spoiler is standard. The engine and driveline are exactly the same, not worth the extra money in my opinion.

But why bother with a v8 when you can have a blown 6!!!!!.

Dain

the hard cover is standard on the maloo also, just the spoiler is an option on it.. I think?

Edited 06/08/04 03:48 AM by -carty

[Scotty Tav]

Hey ASNU, where did you find that deal on the R8 mate? Can you tell me more about it? Sound like a damn good dal to me!

[BRENCH]

I was in a similar boat to you once upon a time I think there are advantages either way.

Maloo is now 285KW and the R8 Has the same motor with standard hardcover with wing, better wheels, leather interior and a few other little bits. The cab in the Ford utes is a hell of alot bigger having the space cab design but I hate how the style side tray is still seperate to the cab and that they pre drill the holes for the soft cover and then just put metal caps in to fill the holes, very dodgy. Also looking at my mates persuit, they don't linish the rear hinges for the tailgate which is a bit slack for such a dear ute. I don't thing the Persuit looks different enough to a XR8 I mean compare a SS to a Maloo R8 MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!!!!

I bought a XR6T and I am happy with. Its preferance more than anything