Guest Big Mick Guests Posted 22/07/04 11:02 AM Share Posted 22/07/04 11:02 AM Geeseman said: The problem with that theory, Geea, is that there needs to be a large change the to the plumbing of the xrt with either the nizpro or aps kits. You need to work out which is better for you, but it's no small job that's for sure Geesemans right Geea, if you go to the larger IC you really need to redo the plumbing at the same time. As well as the heat soak mentioned, it will also make a big difference to the turbo lag which means better 60' times... and more of a reason to run slicks.As Brian has mentioned before, removing 15 odd feet of intake piping can only improve the response of the car.Geeseman, when APS fit the larger IC in the phase III kits they also redo the plumbing. I would suspect that there would be very little difference between the length of the plumbing in the APS Stage III kit and the NIZPRO Stage II kit.Geea, I think you WILL have problems with your auto when (if) you exceed 300rwkw. I'm hope I'm wrong, but that's the feeling I have knowing more about these transmissions than I did a month ago.Cheers,Mick Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-145947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 6m 10d Location: Sydney Posted 22/07/04 11:16 AM Share Posted 22/07/04 11:16 AM Big Mick said: As Brian has mentioned before, removing 15 odd feet of intake piping can only improve the response of the car. It would improve the response and as I assume decrease the amount of boost required to hit a power level. The cold air box in my car gets very hot, I can only imagine what the piping from the intercooler gets like. Best to keep it as short as possible.,As for the auto, yeah, I wont be passing 300rwkw for that reason. I dont have much faith in the auto at that power level but will be looking at an intercooler simply to keep the intake temps down and the engine cooler as a result. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-145951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl Toughest BA Turbo Lifetime Members 3,408 Member For: 22y 4m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 22/07/04 11:35 AM Share Posted 22/07/04 11:35 AM Big Mick said: I would suspect that there would be very little difference between the length of the plumbing in the APS Stage III kit and the NIZPRO Stage II kit....Cheers,MickMick,I just got out of tape measure, and double checked. It is very surprising. The APS Stage 3 has 1.2 metres of extra inlet plumbing, compared to Nizpro.Much of that extra plumbing is over the top of a hot exhaust manifold.Brian Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-145958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Mick Guests Posted 22/07/04 07:58 PM Share Posted 22/07/04 07:58 PM Geeseman said: .....but will be looking at an intercooler simply to keep the intake temps down and the engine cooler as a result. I agree Geeseman, for me a bigger IC would be about producing power more consistently rather than producing more power. bcl said: Big Mick said: I would suspect that there would be very little difference between the length of the plumbing in the APS Stage III kit and the NIZPRO Stage II kit....Cheers,MickMick,I just got out of tape measure, and double checked. It is very surprising. The APS Stage 3 has 1.2 metres of extra inlet plumbing, compared to Nizpro.Much of that extra plumbing is over the top of a hot exhaust manifold.BrianThanks Brian, I stand corrected I didn't know you had an APS Stage 3 car too.. :lol:Mick Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl Toughest BA Turbo Lifetime Members 3,408 Member For: 22y 4m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 22/07/04 08:49 PM Share Posted 22/07/04 08:49 PM Big Mick said: I didn't know you had an APS Stage 3 car too.. :lol:Mick Yeah that's really funny Mick.Just look at the stage 3 picture on the aps web site, then use a tape measure.It's not hard... the hard part was finding my wife's tape measure in the sacred domain of her sewing equipment.Brian Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASHEN Member 868 Member For: 21y 5m 11d Location: Need one.. Posted 22/07/04 09:02 PM Share Posted 22/07/04 09:02 PM bcl said: Big Mick said: I didn't know you had an APS Stage 3 car too.. :lol:MickYeah that's really funny Mick.Just look at the stage 3 picture on the aps web site, then use a tape measure.It's not hard... the hard part was finding my wife's tape measure in the sacred domain of her sewing equipment.Brian ....here we go I'm thinkin' Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 6m 10d Location: Sydney Posted 22/07/04 10:28 PM Share Posted 22/07/04 10:28 PM PHASE 3_PASHEN said: ....here we go I'm thinkin'Stop thinking then. Bcl has a valid point it's easy to see that the piping is longer.I don't think its a problem though. One fella I know with stage 3 commented on the lack of initial omph compared to phase 2, but once the power comes on it's very strong of course. I'll look at heat wrap for extra shielding of the piping maybe, but to the average joe there won't be a hell of a lot of difference between the two kits in power or how quickly it comes on. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 22y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 23/07/04 02:06 AM Share Posted 23/07/04 02:06 AM bcl said: It's not hard... the hard part was finding my wife's tape measure in the sacred domain of her sewing equipment.Brian You're a game man Scotty Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 22y 1m 20d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 23/07/04 02:07 AM Share Posted 23/07/04 02:07 AM Geeseman said: I don't think its a problem though. One fella I know with stage 3 commented on the lack of initial omph compared to phase 2, I thought the story was that the APS cooler didn't effect lagScotty Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Mick Guests Posted 23/07/04 02:50 AM Share Posted 23/07/04 02:50 AM PHASE 3_PASHEN said: ....here we go I'm thinkin' Seriously, I wasn't trying to take the piss out of Brian. I don't have either an APS Stage 3 or Nizpro Stage 2 and made my original comment about the plumbing been similar lengths based on what I have read about the changes required to fit both kits.I'm more than happy to be corrected by Brian who has some first hand knowledge on the subject. My comment RE: him owning an APS Stage 3 car was purely tongue in cheek.Cheers,Mick Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11931-possible-options-for-geea/page/3/#findComment-146100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now