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Ok, having monitered this thread since its inception, very interesting developments.

Couple of questions:

1. What stage upgrade was this car that allegdly had the T56 in it? (I have assumed a Stage II or above)

2.  What has been the APS stance on the T5 gearbox in that stage upgrade (ie APS advises should upgrade/should suffice)?

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BA_Turbs

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In my experance with the auto, and my opinion with the manual. If your going to drive hard most of the time want to do a few burnouts, neither trans will hold up for long with even Phase II.

With about 5 decent burnouts 1 big static one 2 runs down the drag strip and 10 000 kms at Phase II every bearing bush cluch and band in my box was stuffed.

A little bit off the question. Sorry

Tony

re;gearbox

I have 433rwhp and a 5 speed t5. apart from the 5th gear syncro

being replaced on recall I have had no problems with it and I have just clocked up 30,000 kms of hard driving.

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Ok, having monitered this thread since its inception, very interesting developments.

Couple of questions:

1. What stage upgrade was this car that allegdly had the T56 in it? (I have assumed a Stage II or above)

2.  What has been the APS stance on the T5 gearbox in that stage upgrade (ie APS advises should upgrade/should suffice)?

Regards,

BA_Turbs

(Antony)

In my experance with the auto, and my opinion with the manual. If your going to drive hard most of the time want to do a few burnouts, neither trans will hold up for long with even Phase II.

With about 5 decent burnouts 1 big static one 2 runs down the drag strip and 10 000 kms at Phase II every bearing bush cluch and band in my box was stuffed.

A little bit off the question. Sorry

Tony

re;gearbox

I have 433rwhp and a 5 speed t5. apart from the 5th gear syncro

being replaced on recall I have had no problems with it and I have just clocked up 30,000 kms of hard driving.

Yeah but you wont drag it cos you said you might break it .....

Tony

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Ok, having monitered this thread since its inception, very interesting developments.

Couple of questions:

1. What stage upgrade was this car that allegdly had the T56 in it? (I have assumed a Stage II or above)

2.  What has been the APS stance on the T5 gearbox in that stage upgrade (ie APS advises should upgrade/should suffice)?

Regards,

BA_Turbs

(Antony)

In my experance with the auto, and my opinion with the manual. If your going to drive hard most of the time want to do a few burnouts, neither trans will hold up for long with even Phase II.

With about 5 decent burnouts 1 big static one 2 runs down the drag strip and 10 000 kms at Phase II every bearing bush cluch and band in my box was stuffed.

A little bit off the question. Sorry

Tony

re;gearbox

I have 433rwhp and a 5 speed t5. apart from the 5th gear syncro

being replaced on recall I have had no problems with it and I have just clocked up 30,000 kms of hard driving.

Yeah but you wont drag it cos you said you might break it .....

Tony

yes,MIGHT. BUT STILL HAVENT.

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Tony, I guess that due to the cars being relativly new, there has not been much testing on modded cars for a extended period of time. I doubt there would be any T out there that has done 50k km with any piggyback mods. I think the auto is a strong box in standard form, but when you mod the car it will not last as long. If you are dropping burnouts and drag racing, I would think you have got a decent life out of it. If you had a stock car, I could understand your frustration, but I think the info you got at the time was as accurate as it could have been.

I have taken the comments on how great the T5 is with mods with a grain of salt as I have read about several people who are up for a new manual with Phase 3 mods.

I got a manual before it was stated about how wonderfull the $hitboxes are meant to be, but I think a T56 will be needed eventually if I choose to go above 250 rwkw.

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We are not talking rollbacks, dropping it from neutral to drive or even changing down through the gears. Full throttle up changes and a bit on the brake till its spins then off the brake and stalled up for aprox 10 seconds to 2000rpm at the drags.

Tony

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Guys,

I have PM'd with Peter after he was unhappy with comments I made about me not trusting APS due to their evasion of this subject ... Peter is clearly in a development Phase with gearboxes since I assume his Phase IV will kill any T5 due to its massive torque output ... so currently a T56 is an option ... :) as I am sure he is trying alot of things ... its all good.

But I stand by my comments (as healthy debate should be encouraged), I would like it to be known I think Peter would have served himself much better by simply stating that "Yes" I had a T56 in the car for development and testing and we are also looking at other options ... but "No" I will disclose nothing else on the subject since it is all in early development. He is a businessman and I don't expect him to tell the world what he's up to but a little honesty with his potential customers would have gone a long way ...

I do believe he gets some big raps on this site and a fair share of criticism so it would have gone a long way to silensing the knockers by being up front.

Cheers Jason.

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Guys,

I have PM'd with Peter after he was unhappy with comments I made about me not trusting APS due to their evasion of this subject ... Peter is clearly in a development Phase with gearboxes since I assume his Phase IV will kill any T5 due to its massive torque output ... so currently a T56 is an option ... :) as I am sure he is trying alot of things ... its all good.

But I stand by my comments (as healthy debate should be encouraged), I would like it to be known I think Peter would have served himself much better by simply stating that "Yes" I had a T56 in the car for development and testing and we are also looking at other options ... but "No" I will disclose nothing else on the subject since it is all in early development. He is a businessman and I don't expect him to tell the world what he's up to but a little honesty with his potential customers would have gone a long way ...

I do believe he gets some big raps on this site and a fair share of criticism so it would have gone a long way to silensing the knockers by being up front.

Cheers Jason.

Well said :pinch: Could not agree more :blush:

Cheers

Tony

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