BA_Turbs Member 836 Member For: 21y 10m 2d Gender: Male Posted 13/07/04 09:52 AM Share Posted 13/07/04 09:52 AM I've just read the title of the thread and answered my pwn first question... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-142977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xrglen Guests Posted 13/07/04 01:01 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 01:01 PM Worpor said: BA_Turbs said: Ok, having monitered this thread since its inception, very interesting developments.Couple of questions:1. What stage upgrade was this car that allegdly had the T56 in it? (I have assumed a Stage II or above)2. What has been the APS stance on the T5 gearbox in that stage upgrade (ie APS advises should upgrade/should suffice)?Regards,BA_Turbs(Antony)In my experance with the auto, and my opinion with the manual. If your going to drive hard most of the time want to do a few burnouts, neither trans will hold up for long with even Phase II. With about 5 decent burnouts 1 big static one 2 runs down the drag strip and 10 000 kms at Phase II every bearing bush cluch and band in my box was stuffed.A little bit off the question. SorryTony re;gearbox I have 433rwhp and a 5 speed t5. apart from the 5th gear syncrobeing replaced on recall I have had no problems with it and I have just clocked up 30,000 kms of hard driving. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worpor Member 467 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Location: Perth Posted 13/07/04 01:14 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 01:14 PM xrglen said: Worpor said: BA_Turbs said: Ok, having monitered this thread since its inception, very interesting developments.Couple of questions:1. What stage upgrade was this car that allegdly had the T56 in it? (I have assumed a Stage II or above)2. What has been the APS stance on the T5 gearbox in that stage upgrade (ie APS advises should upgrade/should suffice)?Regards,BA_Turbs(Antony)In my experance with the auto, and my opinion with the manual. If your going to drive hard most of the time want to do a few burnouts, neither trans will hold up for long with even Phase II. With about 5 decent burnouts 1 big static one 2 runs down the drag strip and 10 000 kms at Phase II every bearing bush cluch and band in my box was stuffed.A little bit off the question. SorryTony re;gearbox I have 433rwhp and a 5 speed t5. apart from the 5th gear syncrobeing replaced on recall I have had no problems with it and I have just clocked up 30,000 kms of hard driving. Yeah but you wont drag it cos you said you might break it .....Tony Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worpor Member 467 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Location: Perth Posted 13/07/04 01:19 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 01:19 PM Fair enough I left out regularly drag it ..... Ive seen how ya drive :lol: Its certainly done well... :lol: Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xrglen Guests Posted 13/07/04 01:23 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 01:23 PM Worpor said: xrglen said: Worpor said: BA_Turbs said: Ok, having monitered this thread since its inception, very interesting developments.Couple of questions:1. What stage upgrade was this car that allegdly had the T56 in it? (I have assumed a Stage II or above)2. What has been the APS stance on the T5 gearbox in that stage upgrade (ie APS advises should upgrade/should suffice)?Regards,BA_Turbs(Antony)In my experance with the auto, and my opinion with the manual. If your going to drive hard most of the time want to do a few burnouts, neither trans will hold up for long with even Phase II. With about 5 decent burnouts 1 big static one 2 runs down the drag strip and 10 000 kms at Phase II every bearing bush cluch and band in my box was stuffed.A little bit off the question. SorryTony re;gearbox I have 433rwhp and a 5 speed t5. apart from the 5th gear syncrobeing replaced on recall I have had no problems with it and I have just clocked up 30,000 kms of hard driving. Yeah but you wont drag it cos you said you might break it .....Tony yes,MIGHT. BUT STILL HAVENT. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worpor Member 467 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Location: Perth Posted 13/07/04 01:28 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 01:28 PM (edited) What was here is best left unsaid. Edited 13/07/04 02:44 PM by Worpor Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 21y 4m 8d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 13/07/04 01:48 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 01:48 PM Tony, I guess that due to the cars being relativly new, there has not been much testing on modded cars for a extended period of time. I doubt there would be any T out there that has done 50k km with any piggyback mods. I think the auto is a strong box in standard form, but when you mod the car it will not last as long. If you are dropping burnouts and drag racing, I would think you have got a decent life out of it. If you had a stock car, I could understand your frustration, but I think the info you got at the time was as accurate as it could have been. I have taken the comments on how great the T5 is with mods with a grain of salt as I have read about several people who are up for a new manual with Phase 3 mods.I got a manual before it was stated about how wonderfull the $hitboxes are meant to be, but I think a T56 will be needed eventually if I choose to go above 250 rwkw. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worpor Member 467 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Location: Perth Posted 13/07/04 02:50 PM Share Posted 13/07/04 02:50 PM We are not talking rollbacks, dropping it from neutral to drive or even changing down through the gears. Full throttle up changes and a bit on the brake till its spins then off the brake and stalled up for aprox 10 seconds to 2000rpm at the drags.Tony Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jteale Guests Posted 14/07/04 01:31 AM Share Posted 14/07/04 01:31 AM Guys,I have PM'd with Peter after he was unhappy with comments I made about me not trusting APS due to their evasion of this subject ... Peter is clearly in a development Phase with gearboxes since I assume his Phase IV will kill any T5 due to its massive torque output ... so currently a T56 is an option ... as I am sure he is trying alot of things ... its all good.But I stand by my comments (as healthy debate should be encouraged), I would like it to be known I think Peter would have served himself much better by simply stating that "Yes" I had a T56 in the car for development and testing and we are also looking at other options ... but "No" I will disclose nothing else on the subject since it is all in early development. He is a businessman and I don't expect him to tell the world what he's up to but a little honesty with his potential customers would have gone a long way ... I do believe he gets some big raps on this site and a fair share of criticism so it would have gone a long way to silensing the knockers by being up front. Cheers Jason. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worpor Member 467 Member For: 21y 4m 7d Location: Perth Posted 14/07/04 02:30 AM Share Posted 14/07/04 02:30 AM jteale said: Guys,I have PM'd with Peter after he was unhappy with comments I made about me not trusting APS due to their evasion of this subject ... Peter is clearly in a development Phase with gearboxes since I assume his Phase IV will kill any T5 due to its massive torque output ... so currently a T56 is an option ... as I am sure he is trying alot of things ... its all good.But I stand by my comments (as healthy debate should be encouraged), I would like it to be known I think Peter would have served himself much better by simply stating that "Yes" I had a T56 in the car for development and testing and we are also looking at other options ... but "No" I will disclose nothing else on the subject since it is all in early development. He is a businessman and I don't expect him to tell the world what he's up to but a little honesty with his potential customers would have gone a long way ... I do believe he gets some big raps on this site and a fair share of criticism so it would have gone a long way to silensing the knockers by being up front. Cheers Jason.Well said Could not agree more CheersTony Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/11730-aps-stage-iii-car-fited-with-t56-6-speed/page/9/#findComment-143219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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