geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 22/06/04 04:48 PM Author Share Posted 22/06/04 04:48 PM I'd be more interested to have the probe in the intercoolerScottywould idealy be best to put a pre & post intercooler guages in to record the effectivness of the intercooler.Geea. Wouldnt the spikes in temp when you boot it be because the air is compressed, so when the car is being driven sedatley the intake air temps would be lower due to the turbo not pushing as much boosted air into the motor, and temps being higher when the turbo is on boost due to compressed air gaining temp dur to friction.this is my opinon, and is in no way an educated one, just what I think. I think you're right regarding the preasure causing the increase in temps. I think these are the temps that the intercooler is supposed to lower. I'm hoping to see what difference the 10psi and 12psi maps have with the temps. I can then see if anything I try to lower these temps actually does anything.Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewBytes Member 95 Member For: 21y 5m 1d Location: Canberra Posted 22/06/04 08:56 PM Share Posted 22/06/04 08:56 PM geea, as you know I have the same thing fitted. Interestingly, my temps don't rise when I give it a bootful, if anything they drop. Altho totally different cars, and it's freezing here in ACT! At the moment I can cruise around < 10c, but if I stop at traffic lights for a while I get 5-10c more, and I can never get back to the original low temp.Also, do you notice that after you stop the car the temp skyrockets? Even if I stop at 10c, within a couple of minutes it's 40c odd. But as soon as you start it, the temps drop right back down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 23/06/04 07:13 AM Author Share Posted 23/06/04 07:13 AM geea, as you know I have the same thing fitted. Interestingly, my temps don't rise when I give it a bootful, if anything they drop. Altho totally different cars, and it's freezing here in ACT! At the moment I can cruise around < 10c, but if I stop at traffic lights for a while I get 5-10c more, and I can never get back to the original low temp.Also, do you notice that after you stop the car the temp skyrockets? Even if I stop at 10c, within a couple of minutes it's 40c odd. But as soon as you start it, the temps drop right back down. Hey Drew. I believe that the increase in temp I have is from the preasure caused by the boost. I cruise around nicely and it sits in the mid 20C's. If I put the boot in a few times it will spike to 50Cish and then drop back and after awhile be back in the mid 20C's. If I park after a bit of normal driving with a few quick take offs the car will gradually increase in temp till it is 60-70C. Once I start the car this drops back to mid 20C's low 30C's. Thanks fro a great idea Drew, I'm learning lots about my car because of it. Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNU Member 261 Member For: 21y 9m 11d Location: Brooklyn Posted 23/06/04 08:52 AM Share Posted 23/06/04 08:52 AM Hey guys.I have had the APS stage 2 kit fitted and really notice the difference in how the car proforms when say I drive down the expressway at night under light throttle and all the temps starting going down,When I give it abit of stick after pulling off the expressway it just takes off.Just cruiseing in the city all day like today while still good not as ballastic under load.I spose this is the reason for fitting large ICs to keep everything cool.This is just seat in the pants feeling by the way but a big difference can be felt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 8m 11d Location: Toowoomba Posted 23/06/04 02:44 PM Share Posted 23/06/04 02:44 PM geea, as you know I have the same thing fitted. Interestingly, my temps don't rise when I give it a bootful, if anything they drop. Altho totally different cars, and it's freezing here in ACT! At the moment I can cruise around < 10c, but if I stop at traffic lights for a while I get 5-10c more, and I can never get back to the original low temp.Also, do you notice that after you stop the car the temp skyrockets? Even if I stop at 10c, within a couple of minutes it's 40c odd. But as soon as you start it, the temps drop right back down.Hey Drew. I believe that the increase in temp I have is from the preasure caused by the boost. I cruise around nicely and it sits in the mid 20C's. If I put the boot in a few times it will spike to 50Cish and then drop back and after awhile be back in the mid 20C's. If I park after a bit of normal driving with a few quick take offs the car will gradually increase in temp till it is 60-70C. Once I start the car this drops back to mid 20C's low 30C's. Thanks fro a great idea Drew, I'm learning lots about my car because of it. Geea. Drews car is superharged, so it should behaive in a similar manor since the motor is still being fed boosted air. The main difference here being that the heat generated in the turbo itself because of the exhaust is warming the air also. Maybe the stock intercooler isnt good enough for stage 2 style mods or mods with similar power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 23/06/04 06:31 PM Author Share Posted 23/06/04 06:31 PM geea, as you know I have the same thing fitted. Interestingly, my temps don't rise when I give it a bootful, if anything they drop. Altho totally different cars, and it's freezing here in ACT! At the moment I can cruise around < 10c, but if I stop at traffic lights for a while I get 5-10c more, and I can never get back to the original low temp.Also, do you notice that after you stop the car the temp skyrockets? Even if I stop at 10c, within a couple of minutes it's 40c odd. But as soon as you start it, the temps drop right back down.Hey Drew. I believe that the increase in temp I have is from the preasure caused by the boost. I cruise around nicely and it sits in the mid 20C's. If I put the boot in a few times it will spike to 50Cish and then drop back and after awhile be back in the mid 20C's. If I park after a bit of normal driving with a few quick take offs the car will gradually increase in temp till it is 60-70C. Once I start the car this drops back to mid 20C's low 30C's. Thanks fro a great idea Drew, I'm learning lots about my car because of it. Geea. Drews car is superharged, so it should behaive in a similar manor since the motor is still being fed boosted air. The main difference here being that the heat generated in the turbo itself because of the exhaust is warming the air also. Maybe the stock intercooler isnt good enough for stage 2 style mods or mods with similar power. I didn't know that's Drews car was supercharged. Does it have an intercooler aswell and what level of boost is it running? I think you're right about the intercooler on the "T", I think once you get over 9psi that it isn't as effective. My next power increasing mod will be an intercooler of some sort. Amberley have one that looks good as do Nizpro and APS. It will be a mater of researcing all 3 and deciding which will suit me best.When I get to Calder next (hopefully this Friday if the rain stays away) I'll be able to see how much car the heat generates at the intake with both the 10psi and 12psi maps. This will give us all a better indication effective the factory intercooler really is. It would be interesting to compare it to the intercooler out of the F6 aswell.Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 23/06/04 09:36 PM Share Posted 23/06/04 09:36 PM The heat that could be felt escaping Goldie bonnet vents last night while we were pughing the cars along the staging lanes was an awesome display of how important it is to control the temperatures of these cars, temp was around 18 from memory.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turb06 Dark Knight Mafia Member No. - 666 Member 3,667 Member For: 21y 8m 11d Location: Toowoomba Posted 25/06/04 12:22 PM Share Posted 25/06/04 12:22 PM The heat that could be felt escaping Goldie bonnet vents last night while we were pughing the cars along the staging lanes was an awesome display of how important it is to control the temperatures of these cars, temp was around 18 from memory.Scotty I was very surprised when they released the T without stock bonnet vents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewBytes Member 95 Member For: 21y 5m 1d Location: Canberra Posted 26/06/04 09:33 AM Share Posted 26/06/04 09:33 AM geea, yep I've got an intercooled Vortech running at 9psi. We had a Canberra cruise today and the car was getting pretty well hammered for 1.5 hours, and the temps didn't go above 20c, but I was too busy trying to stay on the road to watch the temp LCD too much It may be that your stock intercooler isn't big enough. Highest temp my car has reached was 27c sitting in peak hour, generally between 8-15c at the moment in the cool temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 26/06/04 11:28 AM Author Share Posted 26/06/04 11:28 AM geea, yep I've got an intercooled Vortech running at 9psi. We had a Canberra cruise today and the car was getting pretty well hammered for 1.5 hours, and the temps didn't go above 20c, but I was too busy trying to stay on the road to watch the temp LCD too much It may be that your stock intercooler isn't big enough. Highest temp my car has reached was 27c sitting in peak hour, generally between 8-15c at the moment in the cool temps. There certainly is a big difference in intakes then Drew. If I hammer mine and I haven't for any more than a few minutes at a time yet I get to just over 50C and it then comes back to mid 20C's. I think alot could be the intercooler being too small. Some of the blame would have to go to the turbo aswell. When I get the intercooler we will be able to see what sort of difference it makes.Thanks heaps for the great idea with the temperature monitor. For $35-$40 its a great little investment.Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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