xrdreaming Lifetime Members 1,693 Member For: 21y 11m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 20/03/08 11:40 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:40 AM Mate I never got personal with you at any time during this thread, I posted facts and never once had a go at you. If anything I was trying to make the point the Sasha was incorrect in stating the Garrett turbos do not thermo-siphon.It is not my fault that a lot of people agree with me that turbo timers are rice on these cars. IF EVERYONE IS SAYING ONE THING AND YOU ARE SAYING ANOTHER THEN WE ARE NOT ALL PARROTS, YOU ARE JUST WRONG, GET OVER IT, IT HAPPENS.You have taken it upon yourself to wage a one man war on anyone who dares question you. I will log the water temps and prove my point that 30 seconds ater idle the temps don't rise very much at all. After driving as you pull up they would be about 90-100C and they won't go past 110c in 30 seconds either.Now on to the personal attack on me. I don't care about being called a know it all but calling a me a Monkey is something that I take personal offence to. I am giving you a chance to apologise to me in public in this thread where you insulted me otherwise I will be increasing your warning level or suspending your account for a day or two, check the forum rules I am well within my rights to do so and I will if I do not get an apology in this open forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azid Rush Donating doesnt allow you to be an idiot! Member 692 Member For: 17y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 20/03/08 11:48 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:48 AM fine mate hand out a threatim sorrybut I stand by what I have said, because you dont believe in tt, and dont think they work doesnt mean they r rice and are for when your at maccas, whatever the hell yas wanna mean by that.You are doing the same as me, you cant see why they actually are useful, so obviously they dont work?You havnt realised even yet, your talking about 30 seconds again. that's FINE!! We have been stating that they r for when u dont have the time to leave it for 30seconds after you have been driving the car hard. You cant tell me that the temps r that low even if you have been driving the car hard. And idling isnt just for temps it is to clear the excess oil out of the turbo, I dont care about thermosyphon as I am not putting 30k worth on hot water running through it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YPURV4 KILL,KILL,KILL,DIE,DIE,DIE, Member 2,813 Member For: 18y 8m 17d Gender: Male Posted 20/03/08 11:50 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:50 AM The new ford mondeo has a turbo timer standed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 17y 11m 20d Posted 20/03/08 11:54 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:54 AM (edited) SO, the center bearing housing is water cooler, agreed? What this means is the whilst the rear housing and turbine wheel may be glowing bright red at full noise, the bearings ARE NOT, they stay at a similar temp to your coolant AT ALL TIMES.Next, when you switch off, the heat soak tries to get in and cook the oil on your bearings, however, the heat cant get into them because the thermo siphon takes over and carries the heat away to your radiator continually until the turbo is cool.Happy? Edited 20/03/08 12:18 PM by tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 20/03/08 11:56 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:56 AM fact still remains that you cant drive your car, turn it straight off and expect this wonderful, amazing thermosyphon to keep your turbo in good nickAzid Rush I copied this from one of your posts, you are wrong this is not a fact.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 17y 11m 20d Posted 20/03/08 11:57 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:57 AM The temp of the coolant never gets to the point at which oil can coke, its just not hot enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 29d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 20/03/08 11:57 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:57 AM Rogercorida...is that you??? :buttonit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrdreaming Lifetime Members 1,693 Member For: 21y 11m 23d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 20/03/08 11:58 AM Share Posted 20/03/08 11:58 AM Azid Rush Posted Today, 10:48 PM fine mate hand out a threatim sorry It was not a threat mate, threats are for people who don't carry out thier intentions, but thanks for the apology.I am more than happpy to continue participating in this thread as long as it does not involve personal attacks.I realise that you are saying to let it idle for 30 seconds to clear the oil at idle speeds and that is fine. I have just never been a life or death situation where I have had to pull up and jump out of the car straight away. Even if you did do it every now and then the effects would be negligable.I am pushing 20psi + boost and over 400rwkw in my ute and have done 110,000km (It has been modded since it had 5,000km on the clock) have never run a turbo timer and my turbo has not failed due to me not having one, I have turned the engine off straight away a few times I suppose. If it has not happened on mine that is a good indication that it won't happen to may members here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azid Rush Donating doesnt allow you to be an idiot! Member 692 Member For: 17y 11m 4d Gender: Male Location: Newcastle Posted 20/03/08 12:12 PM Share Posted 20/03/08 12:12 PM fact still remains that you cant drive your car, turn it straight off and expect this wonderful, amazing thermosyphon to keep your turbo in good nickAzid Rush I copied this from one of your posts, you are wrong this is not a fact.Scottyand you have the proof to back this up? PFFT all the people on this forum that have had turbos cark it, you can honestly say WITH PROOF that this has not been caused because of what we are talking about lol dont waste my timexrdreaming I do admit, I went a bit far with the personal insults but when people like me and agent have tried saying our point, nobody even reads the thread and just comes on with there uneducated answers.You last said "I realise that you are saying to let it idle for 30 seconds to clear the oil at idle speeds and that is fine".... THAT! THAT RIGHT THERE! is allll we have been trying to say for 5 pages. For those people who do not have that time on their hands, a turbo timer can help them. And its not for the people that turn there car off straight away, its for the many people, and there would be many people out there believe it or not, who thrash their car, and turn it straight off because someone somewhere along the line like kimberly scott, said that thermosyphon is amazing and you can put all your trust, and all your money into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberley Scott www.australianflag.org.au Donating Members 6,763 Member For: 19y 6m 4d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 20/03/08 12:19 PM Share Posted 20/03/08 12:19 PM I have never mentioned thermosyphon, and what makes you so educated-that you know better than anyone else. Like I have said before there have been some turbos fail on members vehicle from this forum, no one has stated it was due to lack of turbo timer, oil screen blockage yes, flacking from the cross over, not using corrrect oil and leaving it in to long, but not because of lack of turbo timer.As stated in previuos post I can only think of two occasions when you may be driving hard and turn of car starait away.Coming of a motorway hard and pulling up in a servo; orRunning from the cops and hiding in a driveway.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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