DIFF CLUNK - Combined Approach

[jetute]

The Manual I drove was 67km's and it had clunk.. I paid the money and knew there was a fair chance of clunk....The motoring (wheels/ motor) magazines was <1500km's and it had clunk.. My driving technique has eliminated the clunk..... The lucky ones dont have clunk but probably will oneday.... You make it sound like you are stuck with these things foreva.... Dont like it.. Cut your losses and by a typhoon ( Minus the clunk of course).. Cars are unfortunatly disposable... Comodities of an open international market.. Just like pork ribs.... If you dont like the pork..... become Jewish..........

good to hear your happy with your clunk just like I know some the that are extremely happy without their clunk.....

typhoon has no clunk?? do you own one or are you going on what you have read?? is this cause its an auto??? You think all autos are clunk free :lol:

regardless im happy that you are happy to have a clunker I wish I was as happy with mine.

I do love my T, just wish the clunk was not there.... or more like I have said before, the associated bounciness in the driveline.

[Blonk]

I could drive you round for a week in my clunker and you wouldn't hear a clunk I I drove to avoid it.... If you drove it, it might clunk.. I am sorry you have a clunk but more sorry it irritates you.... I wish I could contribute to ford removing the clunk, but hey.. We are in Iraq killing people just to get petrol to drive these things.... They really are high quality problems hey.....

[jetute]

I could drive you round for a week in my clunker and you wouldn't hear a clunk I I drove to avoid it.... If you drove it, it might clunk.. I am sorry you have a clunk but more sorry it irritates you.... I wish I could contribute to ford removing the clunk, but hey.. We are in Iraq killing people just to get petrol to drive these things.... They really are high quality problems hey.....

dude, your welcome to come and drive my car and if you can drive it clunk free in peak hour traffic ill shout you a night on the booze... if you cant you shout me a night on the booze!!!

mine started as a slight clunker but is now a major clunker.... getting worse all the time (lets see what the new diff will do, should receive it in the next couple of weeks)... I use to be able to drive it clunk free, but not anymore.... there is only so much you can do with the clutch before other problems catch up.

I do agree that these are small issues when comparing to other things happening around the world... an issue none the less. regardless its still a great car though

[Blonk]

Ahhh.. Peak hour traffic.. Now I understand.. Trying to drive Clunk free in peak hour whether the gateway or milton road would drive me absolutely insane... I sit in that traffic and wonder why I bought a manual T in the first place,, It's not till I get to some open road do I remember.. Glad you are getting a new diff hope it is under warrenty.. Talking to a guy (anonymous) yesterday with a 2004 GT who is getting his second motor and third diff in the next few weeks under warrenty... Ford doesnt know he is on his 4th set of rear tyres though... Sitting in heavy traffic I start reviewing the reasons I bought a T.... They are definately not built for that.. I will further say that is only my opinion and not those reflected of this site or any site or member who is affiliated here or elsewhere in the event that undue discomfort be caused upon any person or persons whether living or dead, directly involved or intending to be involved in / or around beit now or some time in the future or past etc, etc etc........ ( I am being watched apparently)

[ZAP]

The worst time for my clunking is underground carparks. The sound is amplified, it is also embarising when the valet guy asks what is wrong with the car as it is so new...I tell him that according to Ford....NOTHING IS WRONG

[JB]

Funny...haha..

I read motoring magazines and also wheels test of the car before I purchased.. I also talked to 2 owners and all said exactly the same thing... Diff / driveline noise in the manual.. All parties where concerned how the vehcle would sound after 80,00k's... Fortunately several vehicle have passed that mark and are still going strong.. I knew about the noisey driveline I nthe manual T and still purchased knowing exactly what it would sond like (they compared it to a 1980's muscle car) and really I am still happy with what I got.. Rememeber this car is in evolution stage and improvements will be made... Howver if you want what they got on offer now... Pay the money.. Drive the b**ch and enjoy... If I have gone over any ground already covered I will admit I havent read the other 200 posts.... Only the first whinge... If you bought the car without any research then I say suffer.. If you cant handle driveline noise trade it on a fairmont.... or turn the sterio up.... WHat do you think you get for 40 grand these days....

Blonk unfortunately you show the sort of intelligence that only a couple of other have on this forum by making stupid irrational comments in which you have no understanding of the ongoing problems of other members. Don't even start on the evolution stage as ford have had clunk in their cars for years.

Take the time to read, it's not just the T and it is not $40k. I can purchase and have had alot of cars cheaper and more expensive than the T and have never experieneced the problems that I have with ford.

All I am saying is don't come onto a topic that has been running for some time, and for a specific reason and make stupid comments and no valid contribution whatsoever.

[Blonk]

Problem is JB I have owned fords for my last 3 cars and each one has had it's own problems - vibrations, things not working etc. with which I got no satisfactory results from dealers or manufacturer.... Yet I went out and bought a ford again... So you are right, if I expect any better quality service (or quality car) from ford this time round I would consider myself an idiot... They say the definition of insanity is doing exactly the same thing over and over and expecting a different result everytime... I have offered a solution on another thread and am learning to live with what I believe is an outstanding motor vehicle that unfortunatly does clunk occasionnally.... I am fortunate enough to be in a position to trade up in 18 months and yes it will probably be a ford.....

[JB]

Agree Blonk. It's just that we have had people come along and say they can drive around the clunk, and we should just learn to put up with it. My point is that we should not have to drive around the problem as I have driven 6 manual T's now that do not show the charachteristics that mine does.

You are right however, if I ever thought of purchasing another ford (which is highly unklikely) I would do exactly what you have and look for the known problems and accept them if I had not researched the car properly.

[Blonk]

JB

I offered a solution here -" XR6 Turbo - Losing Faith & Paitence, Ford service - simply pathetic".. I am not unsympathetic to members issues but as an individual we are up against the proverbial wall.. You will note Dallas took action on our behalf but was not supported... If we are to make change we need to persue them en masse, virtually and unfortunatly to the gates of insanity or death...

[RATT]

After some thought I decided to do alittle research into the topic of driveline shunt. After abit of a search on the web I found "shock horror" that it is very common amongst even some of the prestige brands. Here are some links to articles with a brief summary from each one if the articles are too long to read.

Audi RS4: Along what way, you'll encounter a relatively heavy clutch and some driveline shunt from their six-speed manual gearbox - an annoying trait shared with most other Audis. But if you were expecting a wild ride to accompany that flipping performance, you'd be in for a surprise. The RS4 is hushed and refined, and at low speeds is compliant and comfortable rather than sharp and edgy.

Link to rest of article: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:Sd...ine+shunt&hl=en

BMW Z4: As usual, the six is a model of refinement and smoothness and BMW have indulged themselves and even allowed it a deep burble to the exhaust note at lower crank speeds, and some crackle on the over-run. It's another great application of the six, although the 5-speed 'box isn't as slick as some we've experienced lately, though it does retain a wonderful mechanical feel. There was the slightest driveline shunt at lower speeds, although this wouldn't be so evident if the driving position weren't set so far back in the chassis.

http://www.carenthusiast.com/roadtests.html?article=298

Mazda RX-8: Unlike previous rotary engines, there is far less driveline shunt, although edging along at very low speeds can be jerky if you're not delicate with clutch and throttle.

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/motoring/roadtest...ction5/892.html

2002 Mustang GT: The manual gearbox has a notchy, agricultural feel. Driveline “shunt” – the judder and thunk that arises when slack in the drivetrain is taken up under acceleration, or released during deceleration – is pronounced, and the pedals occupy the same basic area but operate on three different planes.

http://www.autofieldguide.com/driven/0702dri04.html

Maserati Coupe: It is almost like an auto in its behaviour and creamy smooth to boot. Some driveline shunt however, can upset serene progress. The engine note in town driving is muted, never intrusive, but musical.

http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=47&I=8717

The point of this post is that it is not just manual Falcons that have shunt. Fact is it happens and unless there is more dampening within the driveline it will coninue to be there. So all this talk of blockading dealerships seams all the more absurd.

Edited 21/11/04 01:15 PM by RATT