aps Member 1,505 Member For: 21y 8m 27d Posted 12/05/04 10:29 AM Share Posted 12/05/04 10:29 AM (edited) He said I could mod the car with exhaust, cold air, suspension...but he ummed and arred about APS piggyback. When I asked what do you do when the car overboosts, he said fit a aftermarket ECU....hmmmMate don't worry about what that Ford service foreman said, if he had any real knowledge or was talented in engine management, he would not be working as a foreman in a Ford dealer ship, that's for sure. :lol: PeterAPS Hmmm Peter, that's a bit harsh ... probably true though I left that arena many years ago and went out on my own ...Sorry it was not intended to be harsh, though you confirmed my own view........If you had real talent you would not be working in a dealership. PeterAPS Edited 12/05/04 12:09 PM by aps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 9m 20d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 12/05/04 01:00 PM Share Posted 12/05/04 01:00 PM Peter I know what you mean.I was a mechanic and went to work in a dealership (toyota) I was shocked by the lack of knowladge and experience the other tradesmen had. There was a 5:1 ratio of apprentices to tradesmen and nobody knew how to diagnose a problem. They would keep replacing parts until they had fixed the problem. The only thing I learnt was how to cut corners with servicing a car in one hour that was charged for 2.5 hrs and how to fix rattles and water leaks.I only stayed for 12 months as I fealt my experience fading away by doing the same job over and over and over and over They did not like me as I always did the job right first time and have very few callbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flukey Seriously Flukey Member Donating Members 4,354 Member For: 20y 8m 13d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 12/05/04 02:44 PM Share Posted 12/05/04 02:44 PM So if premium brakes are a mod I wonder if side airbags are also a mod.....?I love insurance companies almost as much as I love banks and politicians.... You forgot Telstra in your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupperware Member 113 Member For: 21y 11m 7d Location: South Brizzy Posted 12/05/04 08:02 PM Share Posted 12/05/04 08:02 PM they (AAMI) said they wouldn't insure me anymore because they only allow 3 mods and get this, they class the factory sports steering wheel and factory premium brakes as mods AAMI suggested I contact Just Cars, I think the Customer Service Officer (chick on other end of phone) got it wrong. Usually doing a qoute is a pain in the butt so they will happily fob you off if they can. Factory items can not be a modification, they're an accessory.AAMI, Just Cars, Royal & Son, Shannons, RACV Ins, ABBI, Aust Pensioners & Aust Alliance a(etc) are all part of a parent company Promina. They were floated last year when Royal & Son (London) sold them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Mick Guests Posted 12/05/04 11:44 PM Share Posted 12/05/04 11:44 PM Factory items can not be a modification, they're an accessory. Sorry you are wrong, in my experience with AAMI if it doesn't come on the car as STANDARD then it is classed as a modification (things like brakes, suspension etc.). I had exactly the same experience with a Fairmont that had Factory XR8 suspension. AAMI classed the suspension as a modification because Fairmonts didn't have it is standard.I have had this arguement a number of times with AAMI and raised it up past supervisor level, but it didn't change anything. that's why they have Just Car Insurance.Oh and yes I am well aware of the relationship between Just Car Insurance and AAMI.Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffman Member 255 Member For: 20y 10m 19d Gender: Male Location: Prestons NSW Posted 13/05/04 03:41 AM Share Posted 13/05/04 03:41 AM Was the XR8 suspension an option on the fairmont Big Mick?Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 3m 15d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 13/05/04 04:34 AM Share Posted 13/05/04 04:34 AM Factory items can not be a modification, they're an accessory.Sorry you are wrong, in my experience with AAMI if it doesn't come on the car as STANDARD then it is classed as a modification (things like brakes, suspension etc.). I had exactly the same experience with a Fairmont that had Factory XR8 suspension. AAMI classed the suspension as a modification because Fairmonts didn't have it is standard.I have had this arguement a number of times with AAMI and raised it up past supervisor level, but it didn't change anything. that's why they have Just Car Insurance.Oh and yes I am well aware of the relationship between Just Car Insurance and AAMI.Mick I am currently looking at my AAMI policy and it specifically states ,two categories1/ Modifications ie Chips and Zorst2/ Non Standard Accessories ie premium sound , alloys , etcHope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aps Member 1,505 Member For: 21y 8m 27d Posted 13/05/04 05:06 AM Share Posted 13/05/04 05:06 AM Peter I know what you mean.I was a mechanic and went to work in a dealership (toyota) I was shocked by the lack of knowladge and experience the other tradesmen had. There was a 5:1 ratio of apprentices to tradesmen and nobody knew how to diagnose a problem. They would keep replacing parts until they had fixed the problem. The only thing I learnt was how to cut corners with servicing a car in one hour that was charged for 2.5 hrs and how to fix rattles and water leaks.I only stayed for 12 months as I fealt my experience fading away by doing the same job over and over and over and over They did not like me as I always did the job right first time and have very few callbacks.Well thanks for that, I know that the average dealership Mechanic is not much more than a fitter today, which is a real shame. You ask the average dealer Mechanic to explain how to set up cam timing or how engine management operates/funtions and you normally draw a blank expression from the average mechanic. If a mechanic is smart and he wants to learn more, he will normally find his way into in a small though competent speciality workshop. I can't blame you for not wanting to stay in that type of work environment. PeterAPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Mick Guests Posted 13/05/04 10:19 AM Share Posted 13/05/04 10:19 AM Was the XR8 suspension an option on the fairmont Big Mick?Wayne I had an 5.0L EL Fairmont with the following factory (Tickford) options:- 16" wheels- Full body kit- Same suspension as spec'd in the XR8Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Mick Guests Posted 13/05/04 10:30 AM Share Posted 13/05/04 10:30 AM I am currently looking at my AAMI policy and it specifically states ,two categories1/ Modifications ie Chips and Zorst2/ Non Standard Accessories ie premium sound , alloys , etcHope this helps Hi WhiteTee,Agree with you 100% regarding the accessories, you could also add things like side air bags, tinted windows, sat-nav etc.However, if you had premium brakes and the sports steering wheel I would be very, very surprised if they didn't list them as modifications as happened to me.Hey I agree with you guys I don't think that something that comes in the car as it rolls of the production line should be classed as a modification, then again I don't make the rules either, I just cop it!Maybe I'm just a DH for excepting it, but I've had the same argument with AAMI with two different cars.Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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