Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 3m 27d Location: Sydney Posted 27/04/04 10:42 AM Share Posted 27/04/04 10:42 AM I have the APS stage 2 air box on my T along with various other mods that equate to around 260 or so at the wheels.My concern is that the air box in the T is not capable of supplying enough air to the turbo under hard acceleration. I can hear the air intake suck when I plant the right foot and its reasonably loud. Some boxes out there have 2 intakes on them - they keep the original ford intake and include the snortkle APS stage 2 intake as well. I also have a K&N filter as well, assuming this also has helped flow above the standard paper filter.Any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 9m 11d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 27/04/04 11:06 AM Share Posted 27/04/04 11:06 AM I have the APS stage 2 air box on my T along with various other mods that equate to around 260 or so at the wheels.My concern is that the air box in the T is not capable of supplying enough air to the turbo under hard acceleration. I can hear the air intake suck when I plant the right foot and its reasonably loud. Some boxes out there have 2 intakes on them - they keep the original ford intake and include the snortkle APS stage 2 intake as well. I also have a K&N filter as well, assuming this also has helped flow above the standard paper filter.Any comments? I have seen the phase II intake. Mine has both the original intake and a second intake and I believe that this would supply more air than just the phase II intake alone. Whether the extra air is needed or not I couldn't tell you.I dont think too much cold air would be a bad thing though. If I remember correctly Geeseman you have a bit more power than a normal PhaseII and you may need more cold air. It could be an option to sell or trade your PhaseII air box and get the standard airbox and add a second intake. I use the BMC filter and I think it and the K&N are much the same and both are much better than the factory airfilter.Geea. :banghead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 22y 22d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 27/04/04 11:11 AM Share Posted 27/04/04 11:11 AM Or how about a complete XR8 air cleaner assembly?They are practically a bolt in exercise. Wouldnt hurt to try it...... everyone I know who's got one is happy with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronmihe Upstanding Member Member 759 Member For: 21y 5m 19d Location: Canberra - ACT Posted 27/04/04 11:23 AM Share Posted 27/04/04 11:23 AM I'm going downt he path outlined by ms700....Why?The XR8 element has a greater filter surface area. This is a good thing. It can't make more air flow into your motor, but it reduces the pressure drop across the filter becuase each cm^2 of filter material has a lower airflow requirement (because there are more of them).It's factory parts! Ford can't really haggle about the quality of their own intake design can they? Although to keep that theory kosher you do have to use the factory paper filter... However I belive these can be sourced quite affordably from the USA if you think the $60 Ford charge is steep.When combined with the Batten adapter (or similar DIY piece) it gets two sources of cool air from the front of the car.I think ms700 priced the conversion at about $250 + the Batten piece, which will cost under $60 COD'd from Perth... (mine arrived today)All in all it sounds pretty reasonable to me...A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR-71 Blackbird Member 235 Member For: 21y 3m 14d Location: Mount Isa Queensland Go the Maroons Posted 27/04/04 11:49 AM Share Posted 27/04/04 11:49 AM I'm going downt he path outlined by ms700....Why?The XR8 element has a greater filter surface area. This is a good thing. It can't make more air flow into your motor, but it reduces the pressure drop across the filter becuase each cm^2 of filter material has a lower airflow requirement (because there are more of them).It's factory parts! Ford can't really haggle about the quality of their own intake design can they? Although to keep that theory kosher you do have to use the factory paper filter... However I belive these can be sourced quite affordably from the USA if you think the $60 Ford charge is steep.When combined with the Batten adapter (or similar DIY piece) it gets two sources of cool air from the front of the car.I think ms700 priced the conversion at about $250 + the Batten piece, which will cost under $60 COD'd from Perth... (mine arrived today)All in all it sounds pretty reasonable to me...A. $60.00 what pieces part of the airbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trbo 6 Member 230 Member For: 20y 11m 21d Gender: Male Posted 27/04/04 12:18 PM Share Posted 27/04/04 12:18 PM I have the APS stage 2 air box on my T along with various other mods that equate to around 260 or so at the wheels. I've got the APS Phase II and have 280rwkw, so I don't think you should have any problems at 260rwkw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPS Great rack Donating Members 1,351 Member For: 21y 10m 28d Gender: Male Location: Geelong Vic. Posted 27/04/04 12:31 PM Share Posted 27/04/04 12:31 PM I'm going downt he path outlined by ms700....Why?The XR8 element has a greater filter surface area. This is a good thing. It can't make more air flow into your motor, but it reduces the pressure drop across the filter becuase each cm^2 of filter material has a lower airflow requirement (because there are more of them).It's factory parts! Ford can't really haggle about the quality of their own intake design can they? Although to keep that theory kosher you do have to use the factory paper filter... However I belive these can be sourced quite affordably from the USA if you think the $60 Ford charge is steep.When combined with the Batten adapter (or similar DIY piece) it gets two sources of cool air from the front of the car.I think ms700 priced the conversion at about $250 + the Batten piece, which will cost under $60 COD'd from Perth... (mine arrived today)All in all it sounds pretty reasonable to me...A.I've also got the XR8 assy, but I've made my own adapter (Batten piece) for the standard snorkel from a piece of scrap 90mm stormwater pipe Areldited into the side of the air box, with a quick spray of matt black over it.Looks factory made and cost zilch! :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonky The Bionic Man - half man-half titanium Member 1,766 Member For: 21y 10m 13d Location: Dodge Scat Pack Posted 27/04/04 02:01 PM Share Posted 27/04/04 02:01 PM I'm going downt he path outlined by ms700....Why?The XR8 element has a greater filter surface area. This is a good thing. It can't make more air flow into your motor, but it reduces the pressure drop across the filter becuase each cm^2 of filter material has a lower airflow requirement (because there are more of them).It's factory parts! Ford can't really haggle about the quality of their own intake design can they? Although to keep that theory kosher you do have to use the factory paper filter... However I belive these can be sourced quite affordably from the USA if you think the $60 Ford charge is steep.When combined with the Batten adapter (or similar DIY piece) it gets two sources of cool air from the front of the car.I think ms700 priced the conversion at about $250 + the Batten piece, which will cost under $60 COD'd from Perth... (mine arrived today)All in all it sounds pretty reasonable to me...A.I've also got the XR8 assy, but I've made my own adapter (Batten piece) for the standard snorkel from a piece of scrap 90mm stormwater pipe Areldited into the side of the air box, with a quick spray of matt black over it.Looks factory made and cost zilch! :idea: Certainly legal from an EPA perspectiveWhy?Because they are factory made Ford parts fitted to another vehicle within the range.Looks factory, has Ford part no's on it - can;t get much better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeseman Donating Members 1,805 Member For: 21y 3m 27d Location: Sydney Posted 27/04/04 09:11 PM Author Share Posted 27/04/04 09:11 PM I have the APS stage 2 air box on my T along with various other mods that equate to around 260 or so at the wheels.I've got the APS Phase II and have 280rwkw, so I don't think you should have any problems at 260rwkw. Do you notice the airbox making a huge sucking noise when flooring the car?I'm assuming you have a manual as well. Good tune for 280kw. What boost are you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBO4LT Member 1,533 Member For: 21y 6m 5d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 27/04/04 10:12 PM Share Posted 27/04/04 10:12 PM Hi Geeseman,I remember when the first Phase three kit was in development it had the Phase II intake as tested by autospeed in there article and it was making 330 odd rwkw so you think it should be fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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