Skyline R34 GTR

[3rdTurbo]

comparing any GTR to a XT6T is like comparing apples and oranges. they're just not the same.

the GTR was initially built to basically ruin all on the track...and it did

the GTR has been improved over 15 years of development and the XR6T is brand spanking new. the XR6T is based on a platform built for carting families around, the GTR is a boy racers wet dream.

a lightly modified (exhaust, up boost, bigger cooler) GTR does the 1/4 mile in mid 12's and 0-100 in mid 4's

a lightly modified XR6T I would think does the 1/4 mile in around mid 14 and 0-100 in mid 6's

they're different cars...

Sorry den_iel - You'd be very wrong!

A member with std XR6T with no mods has done a high 13 (Mr Walker - I think) and a lot of lightly modded ($5k bolt ons) T's are also running 12's as well. Do the research my friend!

The GTR is based on a 4 door family car known as the Skyline. Amazingly, this vehicle whilst capable of inflicting wet dreams, is also a family car.

What are your thoughts of the E55 and M5?

Just because the intended function of a vehicle is quite broad does in no way indicate it's performance potential.

Your comment suggests that you are a marketer's dream. The GTR is a great car and I have a lot of respect for it.

I disagree with the basis of your conclusion - you should check your facts.

Have you got your learner's permit yet?

[Guest rev210]

Seems to me the question that was asked got overlooked a little.

Gilto asked; 'How would say a stage 2 or 3 APS kit compare with the car (roughly) in outright acceleration and whoooooo factor?

Well I'm not sure excatly what the stage 3 kit gets you over the 1/4 in a T but, 600hp will make a gtr crack a high 10 on road tyres driven well, so if you can do that with a T & a stage 3 kit then it will feel just as good exept perhaps for the launching fun of the GTR.

So if it goes as quick it will feel the same, ie: just as bloody good

A bit off topic but to add to the disscussion so far...

With my 91 R32 GTR you can rev limit launch sidestep the clutch and it takes off like a rocket. instant G's. Has a replacement exhaust (only mod) 230,000kms on the engine and does a flat 12. R32/33/34 can get into mid 11's with about $2k spend, factory N1 spec are there already.

It's been a while since someone has produced something with similar levels of potential so it's great to see Ford step up with the T, a car I think will have much greater appeal to the average aussi bloke/girl.

[Guest rev210]

3rdTurbo,

The 89 - 2002 GTR's are the chassis that the corresponding single/non turbo 2wd and 4wd skylines are based on and not the other way around. The jap nissan website has still got the anouncement archives for you to look at. The 89 GTR model was anounced before the family versions.

Nissan motorsport (nismo) had the greatest input to the design demensions on these vehicles with the aim of taking the Rb26dett /ATTESSA 4wd platform to victory for nissan. This is why there are so many varieties of skyline, tubo non turbo different displacement RB series engines, 2wd, 4wd etc.. Also there are plenty of other family orientated models in the line up to more than cater for that market.

The coolest Family car Nissan ever made was the Autech stagea, a 4wd RB26dett powered family wagon that looks like a Camry with a factory 12.8 second 1/4 mile. The limited 400R version of it does a 12.4

[KrasH]

There is no comparison. An R34 GTR is a better car than the T's we love and drive. Stock they pull mid 12s quarters. They have so much computer gadgetry that even the most insecure driver would be able to drift the thing etc when taking it to the extreme. Just as the bloke on that pommy carshow "topgear" said once. "It's a 50,000 pound playstation". It's accelleration can't be compared with. True that alot of exotics can beat it in a quarter mile race, but the GTR will have them all for breakfast in the first 30 or so metres. Nothing can beat it's amazing slingshot effect and off the line grip. It even beat the nurremburg (spelling) lap time a few years back. Atleast until a Porsche GT3 beat it last year.

In the hands of absolute amatuers they can be lethal. About 2 months ago on my way to wherever, I drove past a tilt tray truck with an absolutely mangelled, and covered in grass and mud R33 GTR. Obviously rolled a few times. This made me almost cry, because I wish I had my digital camera handy.

[ZAP]

Rev210,

I was one step away from buying a Autech Stagea 260RS in January. I even flew to queensland to look and test one, but noone would touch the insurance as the car is unknown.

Awsome car, a real sleeper. Essentially this was a R34 wagon, with a 5 speed.

mmmmmm nice, but not worth the $60k they wanted for a 1999 model.

[Guest den_iel]

comparing any GTR to a XT6T is like comparing apples and oranges.  they're just not the same.

the GTR was initially built to basically ruin all on the track...and it did

the GTR has been improved over 15 years of development and the XR6T is brand spanking new.  the XR6T is based on a platform built for carting families around, the GTR is a boy racers wet dream.

a lightly modified (exhaust, up boost, bigger cooler) GTR does the 1/4 mile in mid 12's and 0-100 in mid 4's

a lightly modified XR6T I would think does the 1/4 mile in around mid 14 and 0-100 in mid 6's

they're different cars...

Sorry den_iel - You'd be very wrong!

A member with std XR6T with no mods has done a high 13 (Mr Walker - I think) and a lot of lightly modded ($5k bolt ons) T's are also running 12's as well. Do the research my friend!

The GTR is based on a 4 door family car known as the Skyline. Amazingly, this vehicle whilst capable of inflicting wet dreams, is also a family car.

What are your thoughts of the E55 and M5?

Just because the intended function of a vehicle is quite broad does in no way indicate it's performance potential.

Your comment suggests that you are a marketer's dream. The GTR is a great car and I have a lot of respect for it.

I disagree with the basis of your conclusion - you should check your facts.

Have you got your learner's permit yet?

ok, so I got it a little wrong.

$5k bolt on parts and it pulls a mid 12. so what? the GTR does it stock.

12.7@178kmh

the E55, M5 and RS6 are cars which cost an easy $200k a piece and are the fastest stock 4 door cars in the world and probably around a track too.

the GTR is overrated.

it was designed to be a track car, even if it was based on a 4 door skyline in the start.

I joined this forum for one reason, because I think the XR6T is simply the best 4 door car in its class and I want to know more about them. but frankly, the XR6T simply wasn't designed with the track in mind.

I'm not a ford basher. I want to buy a XR6T as soon as I'm on full licence. I drive my parents cars right now, a camry and a BA fairmont ghia. I'm only working part time cos I'm a uni student but will be able to afford a XR6T in a couple of years to join the rest of u guys. gimme a break ok? my 5th post and I'm getting flamed...

and I am on my P's

[3rdTurbo]

3rdTurbo,

The 89 - 2002 GTR's are the chassis that the corresponding single/non turbo 2wd and 4wd skylines are based on and not the other way around. The jap nissan website has still got the anouncement archives for you to look at. The 89  GTR model was anounced before the family versions.

Nissan motorsport (nismo) had the greatest input to the design demensions on these vehicles with the aim of taking the Rb26dett /ATTESSA 4wd platform to victory for nissan. This is why there are so many varieties of skyline, tubo non turbo different displacement RB series engines, 2wd, 4wd etc.. Also there are plenty of other family orientated models in the line up to more than cater for that market.

The coolest Family car Nissan ever made was the Autech stagea, a 4wd RB26dett powered family wagon that looks like a Camry with a factory 12.8 second 1/4 mile. The limited 400R version of it does a 12.4

Rev,

I did not make my views clear enough in my previous post. I agree with your first comment about the R32 chassis.

To be blunt my point is that the GTR/Skyline is based on a family car as is the XR6T. I am also flagging that this is irrelevant.

The Hyundai Tiburon was designed to be a sports car (retails for $42k plus) - so does that automatically make it a better performance car?

I am only highlighting that the intended function of the Skyline/Falcon etc etc is not the only indicator of it's performance ability. Forget the marketing and the Import magazines etc etc.

Let's not forget that the Falcon chassis would have been setup for a V8 (high torque) powertrain in mind for the AU and was tweaked for the BA (e.g. the control blade IRS). Further, the Falcon chassis is very rigid (and bloody heavy to boot), and this makes it a great starting point for a performance bias.

I also agree that the GTR (esp R32 and R34) in stock form will comfortably outpace a stock XR6T. I saw your sig and your a lucky bugger to own one these beasts. As I said in my previous, I have a lot of respect for the GTR.

Maybe a comparison with the Typhoon to a GTR would be more appropriate. I would still predict that the GTR would be faster in a straight line (4wd traction) and quicker round the track.

I used to own an S14 200SX from new with minor boost/exhaust mods making 120rwkw. I mention this only to highlight that I'm a fan of Nissan (closet fan on this forum anyway - and I'm coming out baby!!).

With the T having an inline 6 and a turbo puts it into the esteemed company of the Skyline/GTR and the Supra.

It's all good.