ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 01/05/04 04:56 AM Share Posted 01/05/04 04:56 AM One day I'm going to have an intelligent conversation with you, I'll just have to get a lot smater first, damm brainiack makes me feel like Ken, nothing valuable to add whatsoeverScotty CCCErhh excuse me that word intelligent is too good for you...stop using it. You my vocabulary alone, my teachers did . Intelligence who needs it? Scotty CCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 01/05/04 05:47 AM Author Share Posted 01/05/04 05:47 AM I have been keeping an eye on my fuel economy since my Geea Stage 3 mods. Ever since I've had the car the fuel economy has been around 17Lt/100km usually 17.2ish.Since the last mods I have used 174Lt/1140km's. This works out at 15.2Lt/100km. This isn't off the trip computer which isn't acurate any more cause of the different injector size. This is figured on Km's traveled and litres of petrol bought. This includes a trip to Seymor and back which would help.The last refill was 60Lt/355km's which works out to 16.9Lt/100km. This is even a touch better than what I was getting. When looking at these figures remember that at most sets of lights I usually floor it up to the speed limit. This wont be helping economy much.Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 2m 18d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 01/05/04 06:54 AM Share Posted 01/05/04 06:54 AM Geea , like wise with my phase 2 I have been achieving approx 10 - 15% bettter economy overall. The DTE and fuel uage measures from the computer are also all over the place due to the bigger injectors, which brings me to the question , is the fuel guage affected ,as my little orange light seems to come on earlier now relative to the indicated fuel left in the tank than before my mods ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR-71 Blackbird Member 235 Member For: 20y 11m 29d Location: Mount Isa Queensland Go the Maroons Posted 01/05/04 08:17 AM Share Posted 01/05/04 08:17 AM (edited) Just a different view point for others to consider, it's not all about increasing power and torque, engine durability is an important consideration and high exhaust back pressure is a KILLER of turbo engine's. The stock exhauast system has massive exhaust back pressure at 250rwkw yet alone 300rwkw, a bi product of of high exhaust back pressure is elevated thermal loads on internal engine components (pistons, cyl head, inlet and valves). Obviously this high exhaust B/P will have a detrimental impact on engine life ( and should be avoided like the plague) as it will on any turbocharged engine at a high power level. Low back presure exhaust systems provide high power with lower thermal stress on engine components, which provides engine components the best chance to survive at higher than stock power levels. PeterAPS? The ford engineers that we asessing the xr8 here said that the engines required back pressure. Valve life wouldn't be an issue with a turbocharge engine due to the back pressured required by the turbo. Turbo 101 has always been less restrictive exhaust better engine and turbo performance. Looks like I stuffed up what I ment to say was.? The ford engineers that were here to asessing an xr8 with stalling issues said that the engines required back pressure. Valve life wouldn't be an issue with a turbocharged engine due to the back pressured created by the turbo. Turbo 101 has always been less restrictive exhaust better engine and turbo performance. One of the engineers uses the prototype Typhoon as his personal drive car. Edited 01/05/04 08:19 AM by SR-71 Blackbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saleen Big Gun Donating Members 4,170 Member For: 22y 27d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 02/05/04 01:56 PM Share Posted 02/05/04 01:56 PM Geea, very informative post As I now officially have authorisiation from the Minister For Food Import and Preparation, all I need to do is find the right upgrade package for the T. The Geea Stage 1 & 2 seems to be a very good way of upgrading the T. One question I have is after I have the Xede installed, will I need to have the car re-tuned each time I make another mod(eg. injector upgrade or exhaust?) Once again, great post and thanks for taking the time to summarise your upgrades.Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geea Site protagonist Lifetime Members 4,320 Member For: 21y 5m 25d Gender: Male Location: At the lights, waiting for you. Posted 02/05/04 02:15 PM Author Share Posted 02/05/04 02:15 PM Geea, very informative post As I now officially have authorisiation from the Minister For Food Import and Preparation, all I need to do is find the right upgrade package for the T. The Geea Stage 1 & 2 seems to be a very good way of upgrading the T. One question I have is after I have the Xede installed, will I need to have the car re-tuned each time I make another mod(eg. injector upgrade or exhaust?) Once again, great post and thanks for taking the time to summarise your upgrades.Rob Hey Rob, thanks for your kind words. I know that if you add injectors or anything major it will need to be retuned. If you change the exhaust I would suggest a retune would be a good idea, I suppose it would depend on how much difference the exhaust made. Hopfully Lachlan will provide a more knowledgeable answer. Geea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR-71 Blackbird Member 235 Member For: 20y 11m 29d Location: Mount Isa Queensland Go the Maroons Posted 02/05/04 07:17 PM Share Posted 02/05/04 07:17 PM Well done Geea.You've shown you can make good power without spending big money.By the way what fuel pump did you use!In tank, or in-line? fyi I used a Walbro direct replacement 550HP (cost around $350).Thanks for sharing this information.Maybe we need a special forum where members write-up about their cars.Brian BCL do you have a part no? for the pump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcl Toughest BA Turbo Lifetime Members 3,408 Member For: 21y 10m 13d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 02/05/04 08:54 PM Share Posted 02/05/04 08:54 PM Sorry, I don't, and I don't want to pull the thing out to check.... I would if it was simple.I'd give Commsport a ring to check, or contact Nizpro.Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 21y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 03/05/04 12:10 AM Share Posted 03/05/04 12:10 AM Well done Geea.You've shown you can make good power without spending big money.By the way what fuel pump did you use!In tank, or in-line? fyi I used a Walbro direct replacement 550HP (cost around $350).Thanks for sharing this information.Maybe we need a special forum where members write-up about their cars.BrianBCL do you have a part no? for the pump? Are Walbro's locally made?Scotty CCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LOK@ChipTorque Guests Posted 05/05/04 12:56 PM Share Posted 05/05/04 12:56 PM Geea, very informative post As I now officially have authorisiation from the Minister For Food Import and Preparation, all I need to do is find the right upgrade package for the T. The Geea Stage 1 & 2 seems to be a very good way of upgrading the T. One question I have is after I have the Xede installed, will I need to have the car re-tuned each time I make another mod(eg. injector upgrade or exhaust?) Once again, great post and thanks for taking the time to summarise your upgrades.RobHey Rob, thanks for your kind words. I know that if you add injectors or anything major it will need to be retuned. If you change the exhaust I would suggest a retune would be a good idea, I suppose it would depend on how much difference the exhaust made. Hopfully Lachlan will provide a more knowledgeable answer. Geea. Geea, I think you actually have a very good handle on it. If it's a substantial change, it should be retuned. This should only be a small job however except in the case of an Injector change where some serious scaling needs to be done!Lachlan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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