What example? I didn't try to set any example. I just don't think that's the best way to kick off a new guys posts. Not everybody has spare cash to donate. As I stated in another topic: "...I think Chris has done an outstanding job with this forum and I love it, the people and the info that is available at a keystroke is great! And once Christmas is behind me I'll make a donation in January, club or not. Chris". Frodo, I would like to apologise for my OUTBURST you see here, it's a great site, with great members. I hope this doesn't put you off. Sorry!