so if there is 3000 then there must be at least 20,000 auto's in LS. then factoring in other colours, I guess there would be at least 100,000 BA MKII turbo's. do those figures sound correct to you ZAP? as a T owner and driver even my peripheral vision can sense an XR way off in the distance (its just a talent I have), and I have only ever spotted one other BA MKII T in LS in the last year or so, and it was prob an auto. no need to carve me up boys...