Someone once said to me "if there wern't so many d!ckhe@ds on the road ther would be no need for speed limits" He was quite correct. If we could trust everyone to drive according to conditions of road, car, upkeep of car, weather, zone, etc, etc there would indeed be no need for a limit. Unfortunatly this is not the case. I have seen many a young driver on a mountain road see the 100km signpost and try to do exactly that 100km/h up the mountain. Realistically this is not possible but they still try and this is where many come off second best. As to road condition I would have to agree that Great Britain has faboulous roads but this is not indicative of the whole of europe. As a general rule the lanes are slightly more narrow and certainly places like Spain and Italy do not have the same good conditions we experience here and yet they have higher speed limits. I can't argue with the likes of Switzerland who have even better roads than Britain but I can assure you Holland does not have any significant improvement on us and the vast majority of Europe has worse weather conditions than us. Go figure. I still maintain it is more to do with the driver education and upkeep of their cars. To repeat myself some of Europe has a minimum of 20 lessons required(4 on a skid pan) before even being able to try to get their license. Even then some fail the first try. Narrow lanes comparable road condition(with some exceptions) far worse weather conditions(and they still drive at 130+) Better compolsory driver education better maintained cars Hmmmm mayby this is the real key?????? Really if everyone stopped thinking they were such great drivers and looked at the bigger picture then maybe we could start to change towards a better set of rules and speed limits by implimenting some of the educational techniques they adhere to over there. Trouble is no one wants to admit they are crap drivers in comparison to the average driver there.