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no prob, cheers

ok valid point that sometimes they are used multiple times, but when you see them advertised for sale used, I think you'd agree that most are locked (married etc) and re competition, yes that's true, like HPT etc, competition's good no argument there, (wish competition arose for eBay and PayPal but that's another story), maybe you're getting the idea that I can't stand SCT as a company and the way they treat their customers, who are the ones they should be looking after most, and SCT's facebook (hope I'm allowed to mention facebook), jebus there must be way more negative comments and upset people than positive last time I looked, and SCT's typical canned response does not inspire confidence, my summary of SCT is they just want sales of new devices and to hell with anything after a sale or they've sold including current model devices.... anyways

No I don't blame them either for wanting to make money, good luck to them, but personally I think they're way too over the top and greedy in their obsessive dictator attempts at control, but as an owner of a used device you are free as a consumer and legal owner to do with the device as you wish, obviously as long as you don't steal SCT's IP (intellectual property). If by past events you're referring to the falling out between SCT and CAPA re the old X1, but what if CAPA had at the time no reliance on say SCT's software and CAPA could control devices themselves, I wonder if the outcome would have been different as to the ludicrous restrictions SCT brought about... I mean SCT's clamp down on X1 support and the 90 day (from memory, or was it 30?) time limit to get your X1 to a dealer... to me that whole saga proved SCT's ludicrous conditions.... also what about when SCT tried to enforce ON THEIR OWN DEALERS for god's sake, all the new conditions about Advatage III, that anything a dealers creates with ADVIII is SCT's legal property and SCT for any reason can revoke a dealer license at any time and cut-them off (as ADVIII insists on an internet connection to function) and a dealer has to hand over all copies of anything created and destroy any copies and this contract between SCT and dealers has to be physically signed and sent by snail-mail to SCT etc etc and it was only after the so-predictablke outcry by dealers that SCT withheld all this stuff (withheld mind, not removed... at the tiume) ... SCT as a company just seems to come up with some crazy stuff... Oh and re your point, you can return a car to stock parts first and then return to stock tune, but realistically, most users of these devices that's not really an option many times I would haver thought, so I think my initial point about a device being, in many cases, a one-time use sort of thing...

k31th, yes that's true in regard to what you said, that by unlocking a device it takes control out of the hands of SCT and their dealers etc, but I think that's a good thing, no? Just by numerous USA forums I've read etc, it seems many people want the ability to unlock devices, I mean, spending close to say here in AU, anywhere about $600 and up for example on an X4 (plus the tune itself cost) and then you use it once to load a tune, and say that the car can't run on a stock tune because of upgraded injectors or whatever reason, so you can't do a "return to stock" and so it's cost you that amount to purchase an X4 and basically use it once to load one tune onto one car and now the X4's basically a brick, right? It seems like a crazy rort to me, and by the way, something that SCT does not advertise in all it's glossy sales talk etc...

Ok read that and I assume I'm within the rules as I'm not "deliberately sell a product and/or service" no prob but still a bit unclear not looking to promote anything and not looking for a free ad, just a bit of clarity, also to answer k31th, SCT the company is irrelevant to what we do, I feel I'm within the forum rules but correct me if I'm wrong, willing to discuss the subject if relevant, if not then I'll make no further posts here, cheers

Hi, as you're mentioning us (LaserNode) yes we still do SCT device unlocking-unmarrying no problem but not via eBay at the moment, also NathanB thanks for the recommendation and yes we're legit and not looking to rip anyone off, not sure what the rules are on this forum in regard to posting more info or links etc so any advice would be appreciated as to what's allowed, cheers.