That sucks mate, there is no need to have a radio playing while the WOF is getting done?! Forkers. I will keep that Tail shaft loops in mind - I probably wont look for MASS power - just 300 at the wheels! haha With my old car - I ordered one of the JL audio 8in subs, but the place was out of stock. they offered me this DD sub in 8in for a little bit more money, boxed so I took it. I removed the old PIECE of ish and have it sitting in behind my seats. it went pretty hard, and I disconnected the rear speakers for now. when I brought the 07, (I had taken out all my video / audio gear out before I traded in the 04) I was wondering where the sub noise was? the dealer had disconnected it cause it was F'd BIG time, probably should have hit them up about it but couldn't be bothered tad annoyed though. but ahh well pulled it out put the DD in and it works a treat. Indeed I know what you mean, the only people who are allowed to abuse it are the people who PAY for it right?!