I'm fairly certain the guy in the 180 is a copper. PS my patrol car does not take off, twinplate, powerband like a fingernail, etc. But still fun Tra1nr sorry for the gate mate, I thought you were going to have jog and tbh I cant hear bugger all once it opens. Lux - just waiting for a few more fittings to arrive, then I'll e85 tune it, currently at 99.9% duty on 98 and 740cc LOL