I got 19s, and still have the stock springs... lowering it straight away isn't high on my priority list... with the lowering though, I've been told by Pedders and Fulcrum suspension places that it'd cost me upwards of $1000.00 to lower the beast because I need the camber kit, and they need special tools to lower the BA's and BF's (apparently the normal spring tensioners don't fit) I said it was a load of hot cock, went back to Ford, and said 'if I supply the parts, how much for the labour?" they told me somewhere in the vicinity of $600 or so... (they have the tools and do it all the time) that's without the camber kit mind you. but one of my mates dropped his BA on its guts without the camber kit and said that he doesn't have abnormal tyre wear patterns like they would have you believe...